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When I was taking arimistane I was taking it with tongkat ali & fadojia agrestis and half a pill of zinc, Vitamin K2 Mk7, Vitamin D3 5000IU, that was basically all for the stack on cycle. Researched tongkat ali acts as an estrogen receptor antagonist because I tested it out once while I was in a crash it it just made me so flat and joints even more crackier and hurt, along with no stamina/fatique and no pumps and further anhedonia.