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people catch cold-causing coronaviruses twice in the same year
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<blockquote data-quote="DragonBits" data-source="post: 178296" data-attributes="member: 18023"><p>Put it down to dark, sardonic humor. people are going to die from this no matter what we do, we can mitigate the death rate, but can't eliminate it.</p><p></p><p>Overpopulation is a driver of many problems, climate change, encroaching on wildlands causing more disease outbreaks, population density, complicated supply chains, etc. The declining fertility of men, the generational decline in testosterone likely has an environmental cause.</p><p></p><p>There are no easy solutions to these things.</p><p></p><p>But I am more concerned about the economic ramifications than the death rate.</p><p></p><p>I have empathy for those who are losing their livelihood, small businesses that have had to close. I would vote to have been more proactive than we were, but the USA tends to have a short term outlook and we don't plan long term, it is what it is, it wouldn't be easy to change our national character. Our current administration is very short term originated, the next election seems to be their only concern and made it far worse than it had to be, but it would have been bad no matter who was in charge. </p><p></p><p>Personally, I have more to worry about than many people, as I am 67 and my mother lives with us and is 93. My wife, 45, seems to have had covid, surprised I didn't have any symptoms outside of a runny nose which could have been anything. I have seen all my mother's friends die, all her 9 sisters and brothers die with only one remaining younger sister. It's regrettable that old people die, but so far inevitable. Maybe one day we can solve the getting old problem. </p><p></p><p>Jaoan's problem isn't so much underpopulation, it's too many old people. As an example, if we sent all our people over 65 to Japan, they would have more people but a far worse problem. </p><p></p><p>Japan has a combination of xenophobia, aging population with a low birthrate and fewer young people supporting the country. The solution wouldn't be more young people, that just pushes the problem down the road. </p><p></p><p>What can we do about increased life span causing a general rise in a counties average age? </p><p></p><p>What drives a lower birthrate is actually increased economic security along with increased cost of having children. One result from things like social security in the USA is the need for fewer children to support their parents. Birthrates are largely driven by economics. Poor counties tend to have higher birth rates. I don't know there is a solution, maybe more automation combined with a guaranteed basic income to support the population?</p><p></p><p>Maybe some good comes of this. People may (or may not) put more money into infrastructure, pay more attention to obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, long term health planing, more money into things like NIH / research. </p><p></p><p>The problem as I see it, these things don't yield short term benefits, have short term costs and as I said, the USA is fundamentally short term originated. So I don't know if we can change our habits.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DragonBits, post: 178296, member: 18023"] Put it down to dark, sardonic humor. people are going to die from this no matter what we do, we can mitigate the death rate, but can't eliminate it. Overpopulation is a driver of many problems, climate change, encroaching on wildlands causing more disease outbreaks, population density, complicated supply chains, etc. The declining fertility of men, the generational decline in testosterone likely has an environmental cause. There are no easy solutions to these things. But I am more concerned about the economic ramifications than the death rate. I have empathy for those who are losing their livelihood, small businesses that have had to close. I would vote to have been more proactive than we were, but the USA tends to have a short term outlook and we don't plan long term, it is what it is, it wouldn't be easy to change our national character. Our current administration is very short term originated, the next election seems to be their only concern and made it far worse than it had to be, but it would have been bad no matter who was in charge. Personally, I have more to worry about than many people, as I am 67 and my mother lives with us and is 93. My wife, 45, seems to have had covid, surprised I didn't have any symptoms outside of a runny nose which could have been anything. I have seen all my mother's friends die, all her 9 sisters and brothers die with only one remaining younger sister. It's regrettable that old people die, but so far inevitable. Maybe one day we can solve the getting old problem. Jaoan's problem isn't so much underpopulation, it's too many old people. As an example, if we sent all our people over 65 to Japan, they would have more people but a far worse problem. Japan has a combination of xenophobia, aging population with a low birthrate and fewer young people supporting the country. The solution wouldn't be more young people, that just pushes the problem down the road. What can we do about increased life span causing a general rise in a counties average age? What drives a lower birthrate is actually increased economic security along with increased cost of having children. One result from things like social security in the USA is the need for fewer children to support their parents. Birthrates are largely driven by economics. Poor counties tend to have higher birth rates. I don't know there is a solution, maybe more automation combined with a guaranteed basic income to support the population? Maybe some good comes of this. People may (or may not) put more money into infrastructure, pay more attention to obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, long term health planing, more money into things like NIH / research. The problem as I see it, these things don't yield short term benefits, have short term costs and as I said, the USA is fundamentally short term originated. So I don't know if we can change our habits. [/QUOTE]
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