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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Oxandrolone and Nandrolone (common availability)
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<blockquote data-quote="BigTex" data-source="post: 227326" data-attributes="member: 43589"><p>The problem I have is the lack of research on trenbolone in humans. This drug for the most part was used in livestock. Only was it marketed for a short period of time in France for human use. I have used it many times before and it is one of my favorite steroids but I know well how harsh it is on the body. Before someone gets on the internet and pushes the use of a drug for TRT purposes, I just believe there should be some sense of responsibility used doing it. There is plenty of research on both long term and short term use of testosterone, very little on many of the other drugs. I have even put up what Oxandrolone and Stanozolol did to my lipid values at low dose and a short period of time. I though these two were very safe. Now I wonder about even Metenolone enanthate.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>I have yet to find anything on trenbolone other than cattle and rat studies. France took it off the market years ago for a reason. I am certainly not giving anyone a hard time, just asking questions. As for AI's, after 43 years of using anabolic steroids, I have never used an AI. I see nothing but bad side effects in people I have know that used them, including the times my wife has used them for competition. Especially depression. However, there are certainly lots of people who use anabolic steroids under the guise of TRT when they are actually doing a full blown steroid cycle. I could care a less but that is in NO WAY TRT. I have seen my blood work on low dose tren and it was absolutely horrible, lipid values off the wall They quickly recovered but how much long term damage was done with calcification? Aesthetically I love what tren does to me but at almost 66 years old, I am more worried about staying out of the hospital and living a longer life. Of course this is MY goal and I did make it clear that my goals have changed over the years. But again, the guy I am talking about is not pushing aesthetics but is pushing being safe and longevity, pushing TRT. When I have personally done blood work doing low dose tren E, I see that this is definitely not a safe alternative. Especially when rat studies show what even low doses do to the prostate (BPH +149%) even in short term use. </p><p></p><p>Trust me. I would be very happy if TRT was really doing 200-300mg of test/wk and stacking 1-2 anabolic drugs on top. I react very well to lower doses and even set 14 world records in powerlifting with 250mg/test enanthate/wk. I feel very good when I look much bigger and am much stronger. But like my wife tells me.....she looks good in black.</p><p></p><p>I will add this....we do need more research in this area. When our government decided to criminalize the use of anabolic steroids in 1989 we stopped most research all of this has been set back. There is so much to learn and some of these anabolic steroids may be even more healthy for us. Its only been the last few years that we woke up and saw normal testosterone levels are much healthier than low. But to blindly push using any of these drugs for TRT purposes is very irresponsible, especially when you are fortunate enough to have so much attention on the internet. Some of us have spent 30+ years being lab rats getting our information on what to use from guys in the gym.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BigTex, post: 227326, member: 43589"] The problem I have is the lack of research on trenbolone in humans. This drug for the most part was used in livestock. Only was it marketed for a short period of time in France for human use. I have used it many times before and it is one of my favorite steroids but I know well how harsh it is on the body. Before someone gets on the internet and pushes the use of a drug for TRT purposes, I just believe there should be some sense of responsibility used doing it. There is plenty of research on both long term and short term use of testosterone, very little on many of the other drugs. I have even put up what Oxandrolone and Stanozolol did to my lipid values at low dose and a short period of time. I though these two were very safe. Now I wonder about even Metenolone enanthate. I have yet to find anything on trenbolone other than cattle and rat studies. France took it off the market years ago for a reason. I am certainly not giving anyone a hard time, just asking questions. As for AI's, after 43 years of using anabolic steroids, I have never used an AI. I see nothing but bad side effects in people I have know that used them, including the times my wife has used them for competition. Especially depression. However, there are certainly lots of people who use anabolic steroids under the guise of TRT when they are actually doing a full blown steroid cycle. I could care a less but that is in NO WAY TRT. I have seen my blood work on low dose tren and it was absolutely horrible, lipid values off the wall They quickly recovered but how much long term damage was done with calcification? Aesthetically I love what tren does to me but at almost 66 years old, I am more worried about staying out of the hospital and living a longer life. Of course this is MY goal and I did make it clear that my goals have changed over the years. But again, the guy I am talking about is not pushing aesthetics but is pushing being safe and longevity, pushing TRT. When I have personally done blood work doing low dose tren E, I see that this is definitely not a safe alternative. Especially when rat studies show what even low doses do to the prostate (BPH +149%) even in short term use. Trust me. I would be very happy if TRT was really doing 200-300mg of test/wk and stacking 1-2 anabolic drugs on top. I react very well to lower doses and even set 14 world records in powerlifting with 250mg/test enanthate/wk. I feel very good when I look much bigger and am much stronger. But like my wife tells me.....she looks good in black. I will add this....we do need more research in this area. When our government decided to criminalize the use of anabolic steroids in 1989 we stopped most research all of this has been set back. There is so much to learn and some of these anabolic steroids may be even more healthy for us. Its only been the last few years that we woke up and saw normal testosterone levels are much healthier than low. But to blindly push using any of these drugs for TRT purposes is very irresponsible, especially when you are fortunate enough to have so much attention on the internet. Some of us have spent 30+ years being lab rats getting our information on what to use from guys in the gym. [/QUOTE]
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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
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Oxandrolone and Nandrolone (common availability)
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