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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Oxandrolone and Nandrolone (common availability)
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 195838" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>The keyword here is significant.</p><p></p><p>No one is gaining a significant amount of muscle tissue (actin/myosin) on 20 mg/day OX let alone is in no way comparable to the gains one would make when using the 600 mg/week test.....period!</p><p></p><p>No one is packing any significant amount of pure muscle tissue on a therapeutic dose of T 100-200 mg/week.</p><p></p><p>Gains would be average at best for most.</p><p></p><p>Dry gains minus the extra-cellular water weight (bloat/puffiness) and intra-cellular water weight (increased glycogen storage) would be average at best.</p><p></p><p>Sure there are some with good genetics who may respond well when taking 200 mg/week but again even then it is in no way comparable to gains in muscle/strength that one would obtain from steroid doses 300-600 mg/week.</p><p></p><p>Anyone that using a gram of test/week let alone other compounds in absurd doses that do not compete is a f***ing idiot!</p><p></p><p>Regardless of the compound used there is a point in dose where any further beneficial effects will be outweighed by side-effects let alone gains in muscle/strength.</p><p></p><p>Who stated no one had to put in the work?</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that even though one needs to put in the work (training/diet/rest) when using/abusing testosterone/AAS they have a huge anabolic advantage over a natty.</p><p></p><p>Much easier to build muscle/gain strength let alone recover better and unfortunately one could still be lax with their training/diet and still make some progress.</p><p></p><p>Ones genetics/diet/training is key but let it be clear no one and I mean no one can achieve that fake jacked-up look achieved from use/abuse testosterone/AAS.</p><p></p><p>Sure there are some natty outliers that look jacked but they are far and few!</p><p></p><p>Muscles will always be bigger/harder/fuller/stronger when on gear!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 195838, member: 13851"] The keyword here is significant. No one is gaining a significant amount of muscle tissue (actin/myosin) on 20 mg/day OX let alone is in no way comparable to the gains one would make when using the 600 mg/week test.....period! No one is packing any significant amount of pure muscle tissue on a therapeutic dose of T 100-200 mg/week. Gains would be average at best for most. Dry gains minus the extra-cellular water weight (bloat/puffiness) and intra-cellular water weight (increased glycogen storage) would be average at best. Sure there are some with good genetics who may respond well when taking 200 mg/week but again even then it is in no way comparable to gains in muscle/strength that one would obtain from steroid doses 300-600 mg/week. Anyone that using a gram of test/week let alone other compounds in absurd doses that do not compete is a f***ing idiot! Regardless of the compound used there is a point in dose where any further beneficial effects will be outweighed by side-effects let alone gains in muscle/strength. Who stated no one had to put in the work? Keep in mind that even though one needs to put in the work (training/diet/rest) when using/abusing testosterone/AAS they have a huge anabolic advantage over a natty. Much easier to build muscle/gain strength let alone recover better and unfortunately one could still be lax with their training/diet and still make some progress. Ones genetics/diet/training is key but let it be clear no one and I mean no one can achieve that fake jacked-up look achieved from use/abuse testosterone/AAS. Sure there are some natty outliers that look jacked but they are far and few! Muscles will always be bigger/harder/fuller/stronger when on gear! [/QUOTE]
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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Oxandrolone and Nandrolone (common availability)
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