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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Oxandrolone and Nandrolone (common availability)
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 195735" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Nobody is gaining any significant amount of muscle tissue (actin/myosin) using therapeutic trt doses let alone maintaining any significant amount of muscle gained from previous steroid abuse!</p><p></p><p>If anything when it comes to test 300-600 mg/week would be the dose where one would start to really reap the gains in size/strength and even then doses on the higher end would give the most bang for the buck.</p><p></p><p>Even when using ND a minimum of 200 mg/week would be needed to really start to reap the anabolic properties let alone 400-600 mg week is where it would really start to shine.</p><p></p><p>Most of these guys on trt claiming to gain let alone maintain any significant amount of pure muscle tissue are the ones that are blasting/cruising yet they go on to tell you that they are just on higher-end trt doses.....LMFAO.</p><p></p><p>We have a few of them on here lurking now and then.</p><p></p><p>Most men on trt are injecting 100-200 mg/week and many never venture to the higher end let alone many would never need such a dose (200 mg/week) to achieve a healthy FT level.</p><p></p><p>Regardless as you very well know even when following a proper diet/training protocol genetics will have the final say.</p><p></p><p>Sure someone with good genetics that follows a proper diet/training protocol that is on the higher end trt dose 200 mg/week can make good gains but even then most would never pack on a significant amount of muscle tissue (actin/myosin) on such dose.....maybe if you are talking about pure mass (actin/myosin + extra-cellular water (water retention/bloat/puffiness) + intracellular water (due to increased glycogen storage)!</p><p></p><p>Take away all that water weight and the amount of pure muscle tissue you are left with is far from significant.</p><p></p><p>No one is blowing up with muscle on trt let alone 100-150 mg/week ND.....LMFAO.</p><p></p><p>200 mg T + 200 mg ND.....now we are getting somewhere.....unfortunately, this would not be considered trt/hrt.</p><p></p><p>The therapeutic dose of ND for treating joint/bone pain is 50-100 mg/week some may go slightly higher but 200 mg/week would never be needed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 195735, member: 13851"] Nobody is gaining any significant amount of muscle tissue (actin/myosin) using therapeutic trt doses let alone maintaining any significant amount of muscle gained from previous steroid abuse! If anything when it comes to test 300-600 mg/week would be the dose where one would start to really reap the gains in size/strength and even then doses on the higher end would give the most bang for the buck. Even when using ND a minimum of 200 mg/week would be needed to really start to reap the anabolic properties let alone 400-600 mg week is where it would really start to shine. Most of these guys on trt claiming to gain let alone maintain any significant amount of pure muscle tissue are the ones that are blasting/cruising yet they go on to tell you that they are just on higher-end trt doses.....LMFAO. We have a few of them on here lurking now and then. Most men on trt are injecting 100-200 mg/week and many never venture to the higher end let alone many would never need such a dose (200 mg/week) to achieve a healthy FT level. Regardless as you very well know even when following a proper diet/training protocol genetics will have the final say. Sure someone with good genetics that follows a proper diet/training protocol that is on the higher end trt dose 200 mg/week can make good gains but even then most would never pack on a significant amount of muscle tissue (actin/myosin) on such dose.....maybe if you are talking about pure mass (actin/myosin + extra-cellular water (water retention/bloat/puffiness) + intracellular water (due to increased glycogen storage)! Take away all that water weight and the amount of pure muscle tissue you are left with is far from significant. No one is blowing up with muscle on trt let alone 100-150 mg/week ND.....LMFAO. 200 mg T + 200 mg ND.....now we are getting somewhere.....unfortunately, this would not be considered trt/hrt. The therapeutic dose of ND for treating joint/bone pain is 50-100 mg/week some may go slightly higher but 200 mg/week would never be needed. [/QUOTE]
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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Oxandrolone and Nandrolone (common availability)
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