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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
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<blockquote data-quote="Cataceous" data-source="post: 217373" data-attributes="member: 38109"><p>I think enclomiphene makes more sense than hCG if you're trying to keep the HPTA going. However, even though enclomiphene often yields great lab numbers, the subjective results vary widely. You just have to try it to see how it affects you. I expect that visual effects are possible with enclomiphene; it seems less likely to me that zuclomiphene causes them. However, I don't recall that any such issues were reported in the clinical trials for Androxal, even at 25 mg per day. The incidence at these relatively lower doses seems small enough that I don't worry about it. You can read <a href="https://jeffreydachmd.com/2013/04/clomiphene-clomid-adverse-side-effects-part-three/" target="_blank">Dr. Dach's page</a> on the safety of clomiphene. He cites one report saying that the incidence of visual adverse events is 1.5%. But these likely pertain to doses in the range of 50-200 mg per day. If clomiphene is 60% enclomiphene then the enclomiphene exposure was 30-120 mg/day.</p><p></p><p>If you try it I suggest the low-and-slow approach. I might even start at 6.25 mg EOD, although that could be sub-therapeutic. Otherwise, 6.25 mg daily or 12.5 EOD would correspond to the lowest dose used in the clinical trials. The latter is my current dose.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cataceous, post: 217373, member: 38109"] I think enclomiphene makes more sense than hCG if you're trying to keep the HPTA going. However, even though enclomiphene often yields great lab numbers, the subjective results vary widely. You just have to try it to see how it affects you. I expect that visual effects are possible with enclomiphene; it seems less likely to me that zuclomiphene causes them. However, I don't recall that any such issues were reported in the clinical trials for Androxal, even at 25 mg per day. The incidence at these relatively lower doses seems small enough that I don't worry about it. You can read [URL='https://jeffreydachmd.com/2013/04/clomiphene-clomid-adverse-side-effects-part-three/']Dr. Dach's page[/URL] on the safety of clomiphene. He cites one report saying that the incidence of visual adverse events is 1.5%. But these likely pertain to doses in the range of 50-200 mg per day. If clomiphene is 60% enclomiphene then the enclomiphene exposure was 30-120 mg/day. If you try it I suggest the low-and-slow approach. I might even start at 6.25 mg EOD, although that could be sub-therapeutic. Otherwise, 6.25 mg daily or 12.5 EOD would correspond to the lowest dose used in the clinical trials. The latter is my current dose. [/QUOTE]
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