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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
NO HCG: Dr. Abraham Morgentaler, Dr. Rand McClain, and Jay Campbell??
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<blockquote data-quote="Nelson Vergel" data-source="post: 42695" data-attributes="member: 3"><p><a href="http://www.excelmale.com/member.php?13058-jth0524" target="_blank">jth0524</a> </p><p></p><p>Great question (or observation)</p><p></p><p>HCG is not a standard adjunctive therapy with TRT since it is not included in any guidelines. It is also a generic product not pushed by pharmaceutical education. The use with TRT is off label (legal but not approved for that purpose) which makes it more difficult to get it accepted by most doctors.</p><p></p><p>I am trying to get Lipshultz group at Baylor convinced to do a study comparing two arms of patients:</p><p></p><p>Arm 1: Men on T gels or injections</p><p>Arm 2: Men on T gels or injections plus HCG</p><p></p><p>After 3 months, switch men from arm 1 to 2 and from arm 2 to 1. Check efficacy for the next 3 months. </p><p></p><p>I want them to test for upstream hormones (pregnenolone, progresterone) and DHEA and estradiol in both arms as they also ask these men about testicular size and libido changes. It should not be a difficult study to perform.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully they will agree since this study will give me ammunition for advocating for co-current HCG use more effectively.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nelson Vergel, post: 42695, member: 3"] [URL="http://www.excelmale.com/member.php?13058-jth0524"]jth0524[/URL] Great question (or observation) HCG is not a standard adjunctive therapy with TRT since it is not included in any guidelines. It is also a generic product not pushed by pharmaceutical education. The use with TRT is off label (legal but not approved for that purpose) which makes it more difficult to get it accepted by most doctors. I am trying to get Lipshultz group at Baylor convinced to do a study comparing two arms of patients: Arm 1: Men on T gels or injections Arm 2: Men on T gels or injections plus HCG After 3 months, switch men from arm 1 to 2 and from arm 2 to 1. Check efficacy for the next 3 months. I want them to test for upstream hormones (pregnenolone, progresterone) and DHEA and estradiol in both arms as they also ask these men about testicular size and libido changes. It should not be a difficult study to perform. Hopefully they will agree since this study will give me ammunition for advocating for co-current HCG use more effectively. [/QUOTE]
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