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<blockquote data-quote="sfpowerlift" data-source="post: 108101" data-attributes="member: 15457"><p>$250 a month is a bargain for the services I receive from Helix. </p><p></p><p>The monthly fee covers all hormone meds, blood work, and concierge service. I had a mostly good experience with Defy. The reason I switched was because:</p><p></p><p>1. I wanted my cortisol and thyroid (T3 and T4) levels to be monitored. Helix offers this on their in-house blood labs, so its included in the subscription. Defy doesn't include cortisol in their standard blood panel (and didn't have T3 and T4 when I was a patient). I think monitoring thyroid and adrenals is critical, and most hormone doctors overlook that. </p><p></p><p>My understanding is that you can order more tests through Defy, but you have to pay more to discuss them. Not criticizing the setup - it's an 'ala carte' service and I like that their prices are transparent, but I hate having to remember all the things I want monitored (I always forget something).</p><p></p><p>2. There were a couple times that I had to call Defy about meds not being delivered. Everyone there was very nice, but they're not really setup to handle large amounts of concierge issues and replies can take awhile. </p><p></p><p>3. I'm a working professional with good insurance. But even my insurance didn't cover the cost of thyroid testing, DHEA testing, Estradiol testing, SHBG testing, and they definitely do not cover cortisol testing. When you factor in how expensive bloodwork can get, Helix seems like a bargain, since all those levels are included. </p><p></p><p>4. The Helix panel also includes Progesterone (I was low on this, with lack of libido. They gave me Pregnanelone to up my Progesterone and it's helped greatly. It took awhile, but it did help, and the pregnonlone was included in the subscription). Free Testosterone is also on the report. Progesterone gets no attention, but I think its an underrated hormone in men's health and is probably a window into pregnanolone production. </p><p></p><p>With Helix, my adrenals, thyroid, and progesterone are monitored. The meds I get are covered. And they have a concierge service that I can text (I normally get an answer back within a few hours, if not shorter). </p><p></p><p>At $250 a month, this is a bargain. </p><p></p><p>Depending on your insurance, and what it covers for blood (and how many levels you want monitored) being with Defy will cost around $50 to $70 less per month than Helix. You have to remember, at Defy, you are leading your care. You're in charge of getting the blood test requisitions, going to Labcorp, making sure your prescription gets to the pharmacy, etc - doing this every three months is a hassle. I'm glad Defy exists, but at $50 to $70 more per month, I love having the concierges at Helix take care of everything, including a phlebotomist coming to my home and drawing me. </p><p></p><p>My current protocol with Helix is: testosterone, anastrozole, HCG, pregnenolone (sorry for bad spelling). I also have added their Sermorelin-GHRP2 add-on, which is a bargain compared to other shops. </p><p></p><p>The Sermorelin-GHRP2 program in particular has been incredible. My sleep immediately improved. I also have almost no soreness from post-workouts, at least the next day. I've gotten a few coworkers to sign up with Helix (Helix gives you a free month every time you have a referall that signs up) so that's also been nice.</p><p></p><p>I'm a huge fan.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sfpowerlift, post: 108101, member: 15457"] $250 a month is a bargain for the services I receive from Helix. The monthly fee covers all hormone meds, blood work, and concierge service. I had a mostly good experience with Defy. The reason I switched was because: 1. I wanted my cortisol and thyroid (T3 and T4) levels to be monitored. Helix offers this on their in-house blood labs, so its included in the subscription. Defy doesn't include cortisol in their standard blood panel (and didn't have T3 and T4 when I was a patient). I think monitoring thyroid and adrenals is critical, and most hormone doctors overlook that. My understanding is that you can order more tests through Defy, but you have to pay more to discuss them. Not criticizing the setup - it's an 'ala carte' service and I like that their prices are transparent, but I hate having to remember all the things I want monitored (I always forget something). 2. There were a couple times that I had to call Defy about meds not being delivered. Everyone there was very nice, but they're not really setup to handle large amounts of concierge issues and replies can take awhile. 3. I'm a working professional with good insurance. But even my insurance didn't cover the cost of thyroid testing, DHEA testing, Estradiol testing, SHBG testing, and they definitely do not cover cortisol testing. When you factor in how expensive bloodwork can get, Helix seems like a bargain, since all those levels are included. 4. The Helix panel also includes Progesterone (I was low on this, with lack of libido. They gave me Pregnanelone to up my Progesterone and it's helped greatly. It took awhile, but it did help, and the pregnonlone was included in the subscription). Free Testosterone is also on the report. Progesterone gets no attention, but I think its an underrated hormone in men's health and is probably a window into pregnanolone production. With Helix, my adrenals, thyroid, and progesterone are monitored. The meds I get are covered. And they have a concierge service that I can text (I normally get an answer back within a few hours, if not shorter). At $250 a month, this is a bargain. Depending on your insurance, and what it covers for blood (and how many levels you want monitored) being with Defy will cost around $50 to $70 less per month than Helix. You have to remember, at Defy, you are leading your care. You're in charge of getting the blood test requisitions, going to Labcorp, making sure your prescription gets to the pharmacy, etc - doing this every three months is a hassle. I'm glad Defy exists, but at $50 to $70 more per month, I love having the concierges at Helix take care of everything, including a phlebotomist coming to my home and drawing me. My current protocol with Helix is: testosterone, anastrozole, HCG, pregnenolone (sorry for bad spelling). I also have added their Sermorelin-GHRP2 add-on, which is a bargain compared to other shops. The Sermorelin-GHRP2 program in particular has been incredible. My sleep immediately improved. I also have almost no soreness from post-workouts, at least the next day. I've gotten a few coworkers to sign up with Helix (Helix gives you a free month every time you have a referall that signs up) so that's also been nice. I'm a huge fan. [/QUOTE]
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