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<blockquote data-quote="Kanoa" data-source="post: 191773" data-attributes="member: 41559"><p>New to posting but have been reading here for a while. 28 years old.</p><p></p><p>I got my blood checked earlier this year as I have been getting persistent lack of motivation, depression, anxiety, brain fog, unable to focus, memory problems, low libido etc. Worst ones being probably lack of "drive" and motivation. It sucks and is impacting my life.</p><p></p><p>Looking through the lens of long term commitment to feeling better, I chose hormone optimization before anti-depressants and things like Adderall. I am very active, workout 5 days a week, hike in the summer and snowboard in the winter. I feel like it's a chore to do the things I enjoy and have to force myself to do it most of the time. I never used to be like this about 5-7 years ago.</p><p></p><p>Pre-Labs</p><p>Total: 374 ng/dl (264-916)</p><p>Free: 16.2 pg/ml (9.3-26.5)</p><p>Estradiol: 16.8 pg/ml (7.6-42.6)</p><p></p><p>My doctor is a GP who used to work at and manage a hormone clinic. All of my other markers on the Life Extension full male panel came back stellar. On paper, outside of the T levels, I am a very healthy individual. He offered to put me on compounded cream.</p><p></p><p>Based on browsing forums and researching, I was wanting to just get on injections. After my doctor suggested creams I figured I would give cream a shot as it is not as invasive and it works for some men. He mentioned how he has other patients who wanted off injections for cream. The whole idea of following the body's natural cycle seemed to make sense to me as well.</p><p></p><p>The concentration is 250mg/ml (25%). Dosage was .2ml or 2 clicks once in the am. Have been doing this for 3 months and just got my next set of labs done.</p><p></p><p>Checkup Labs</p><p>Total: 379 ng/dl (264-916)</p><p>Free: 18 pg/ml (9.3-26.5)</p><p>Estradiol: < 5 pg/ml (7.6-42.6)</p><p></p><p>As a note, I asked why he didn't want me to test SHBG. Doc said he felt comfortable enough moving forward on what he was seeing but said we can definitely check if I want.</p><p></p><p>I was surprised to see no change. Bloods were drawn in the AM, 2 hours after applying cream. </p><p>I was expecting some sort of noticeable difference 3 months in and didn't get one. I am 100% sure I am applying it correctly to the back of my knee. I also feel the low estradiol symptoms. Overall feeling depressed still, lack of drive, brain fog, memory problems, etc. Maybe even worse than when I started.</p><p></p><p>Lab error might be a possibility on the second test, but overall my doctor agreed it is too low and needs to come up. It is worth mentioning the E2 was not taken with the sensitive test. Is it generally accepted that the Roche methodology measures high? Would it be beneficial for me to get a sensitive if that's the case?</p><p></p><p>Met with him today and said he is upping the dose to .6ml of the same 250mg/ml (25%) cream which is just over 1ml. So 6 clicks per day, in the am. He said I should be able to notice a "drive"/motivation this time around. E2 should raised as a result too. I feel this dose should be split into 2x per day but will try 1x per day.</p><p></p><p>Should I expect to see much of a difference upping the dose? How do you all feel about my dosing? I feel my original dose should have at least done something and to be honest I am not feeling the most confident about this new protocol.</p><p></p><p>Thoughts and insight are appreciated! Thank you!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kanoa, post: 191773, member: 41559"] New to posting but have been reading here for a while. 28 years old. I got my blood checked earlier this year as I have been getting persistent lack of motivation, depression, anxiety, brain fog, unable to focus, memory problems, low libido etc. Worst ones being probably lack of "drive" and motivation. It sucks and is impacting my life. Looking through the lens of long term commitment to feeling better, I chose hormone optimization before anti-depressants and things like Adderall. I am very active, workout 5 days a week, hike in the summer and snowboard in the winter. I feel like it's a chore to do the things I enjoy and have to force myself to do it most of the time. I never used to be like this about 5-7 years ago. Pre-Labs Total: 374 ng/dl (264-916) Free: 16.2 pg/ml (9.3-26.5) Estradiol: 16.8 pg/ml (7.6-42.6) My doctor is a GP who used to work at and manage a hormone clinic. All of my other markers on the Life Extension full male panel came back stellar. On paper, outside of the T levels, I am a very healthy individual. He offered to put me on compounded cream. Based on browsing forums and researching, I was wanting to just get on injections. After my doctor suggested creams I figured I would give cream a shot as it is not as invasive and it works for some men. He mentioned how he has other patients who wanted off injections for cream. The whole idea of following the body's natural cycle seemed to make sense to me as well. The concentration is 250mg/ml (25%). Dosage was .2ml or 2 clicks once in the am. Have been doing this for 3 months and just got my next set of labs done. Checkup Labs Total: 379 ng/dl (264-916) Free: 18 pg/ml (9.3-26.5) Estradiol: < 5 pg/ml (7.6-42.6) As a note, I asked why he didn't want me to test SHBG. Doc said he felt comfortable enough moving forward on what he was seeing but said we can definitely check if I want. I was surprised to see no change. Bloods were drawn in the AM, 2 hours after applying cream. I was expecting some sort of noticeable difference 3 months in and didn't get one. I am 100% sure I am applying it correctly to the back of my knee. I also feel the low estradiol symptoms. Overall feeling depressed still, lack of drive, brain fog, memory problems, etc. Maybe even worse than when I started. Lab error might be a possibility on the second test, but overall my doctor agreed it is too low and needs to come up. It is worth mentioning the E2 was not taken with the sensitive test. Is it generally accepted that the Roche methodology measures high? Would it be beneficial for me to get a sensitive if that's the case? Met with him today and said he is upping the dose to .6ml of the same 250mg/ml (25%) cream which is just over 1ml. So 6 clicks per day, in the am. He said I should be able to notice a "drive"/motivation this time around. E2 should raised as a result too. I feel this dose should be split into 2x per day but will try 1x per day. Should I expect to see much of a difference upping the dose? How do you all feel about my dosing? I feel my original dose should have at least done something and to be honest I am not feeling the most confident about this new protocol. Thoughts and insight are appreciated! Thank you! [/QUOTE]
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