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<blockquote data-quote="slicktop" data-source="post: 178593" data-attributes="member: 39800"><p><strong><em><u>Questions</u></em></strong></p><p>1) How to decide if I pin at 8pm or 8am? Does it matter at this point in my personal situation?</p><p>Most men have a natural peak in the morning, usually around 10AM. If you're doing weekly shots though, I can't imagine it'll make much of a difference.</p><p>2) Suggestions for an exercise routine to lose weight, gain strength, and feel better?</p><p>Bigger Leaner Stronger by Mike Matthews. It literally changed my life.</p><p>3) Thoughts about working with a "mens clinic" vs a traditional Primary Care Physician?</p><p>Don't. At least, not one of the "drive through" ones. I have a longer rant that I'll spare you from, but basically they charge men anywhere from $75-100 for about $5 worth of testosterone and force them into what is most likely a sub-optimal dosing schedule and frequency.</p><p>4) My HGB number is a little high. I am currently eating tomatoes (2-3 servings every other day). Tomatoes are a natural blood thinner. Thoughts on this and being at the upper range of HGB? No clues. Sorry.</p><p>5) Any other comments or thoughts about my download above?</p><p>Please consider going through your PCP or Defy Medical moving forward. Any clinic that makes you come in for a weekly shot is the testosterone version of a pill mill. Going through your PCP may be harder at this point since you've now started at a clinic. He may want you to stop completely, get a new blood test (maybe two, who knows?), etc. If cost is a primary concern (which I'm assuming it's not since you're literally doing the most expensive thing possible right now) your PCP will likely be the most cost effective route, although the level of care and expertise can vary greatly. Testosterone is cheap, even without insurance picking up the tab (goodx coupons get the price down significantly). Many PCPs want nothing to do with anything other than testosterone though, so ancillaries can be an issue. If your PCP is cool though, and willing to work with you and let you take part in your care decisions, and will treat your symptoms not just your numbers, that's a very good way to go. From what I've heard from the men on here though, that's a long shot typically to get all those things out of a PCP.</p><p>Personally, I switched to Defy from my PCP for two main reasons. First, my doc, while very cool about starting testosterone, was more of a "lets wait and see" kinda guy and I'm more of an interventionalist. For example, when I started testosterone initially, my body basically over-reacted to it and my estrogen shot into the 90's, and he wanted me to stop for a month and then restart on a lower dose, as opposed to giving me an AI so I wouldn't feel like crap and lowering the dose gradually. He also didn't want to do HCG, which I very much wanted to incorporate. Defy, however, does cost me a little more than going to my PCP, but they take a much deeper look at my full blood panel (and everything else, FWIW), they prioritize my symptoms over my numbers, and I get great care out of them. They even started my on nandrolone after a nagging shoulder wouldn't heal up on its own, and honestly nandrolone has been a game changer.</p><p>Longer response than I intended, sorry. I just have a thing against the drive-throughs and I've been very pleased with Defy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="slicktop, post: 178593, member: 39800"] [B][I][U]Questions[/U][/I][/B] 1) How to decide if I pin at 8pm or 8am? Does it matter at this point in my personal situation? Most men have a natural peak in the morning, usually around 10AM. If you're doing weekly shots though, I can't imagine it'll make much of a difference. 2) Suggestions for an exercise routine to lose weight, gain strength, and feel better? Bigger Leaner Stronger by Mike Matthews. It literally changed my life. 3) Thoughts about working with a "mens clinic" vs a traditional Primary Care Physician? Don't. At least, not one of the "drive through" ones. I have a longer rant that I'll spare you from, but basically they charge men anywhere from $75-100 for about $5 worth of testosterone and force them into what is most likely a sub-optimal dosing schedule and frequency. 4) My HGB number is a little high. I am currently eating tomatoes (2-3 servings every other day). Tomatoes are a natural blood thinner. Thoughts on this and being at the upper range of HGB? No clues. Sorry. 5) Any other comments or thoughts about my download above? Please consider going through your PCP or Defy Medical moving forward. Any clinic that makes you come in for a weekly shot is the testosterone version of a pill mill. Going through your PCP may be harder at this point since you've now started at a clinic. He may want you to stop completely, get a new blood test (maybe two, who knows?), etc. If cost is a primary concern (which I'm assuming it's not since you're literally doing the most expensive thing possible right now) your PCP will likely be the most cost effective route, although the level of care and expertise can vary greatly. Testosterone is cheap, even without insurance picking up the tab (goodx coupons get the price down significantly). Many PCPs want nothing to do with anything other than testosterone though, so ancillaries can be an issue. If your PCP is cool though, and willing to work with you and let you take part in your care decisions, and will treat your symptoms not just your numbers, that's a very good way to go. From what I've heard from the men on here though, that's a long shot typically to get all those things out of a PCP. Personally, I switched to Defy from my PCP for two main reasons. First, my doc, while very cool about starting testosterone, was more of a "lets wait and see" kinda guy and I'm more of an interventionalist. For example, when I started testosterone initially, my body basically over-reacted to it and my estrogen shot into the 90's, and he wanted me to stop for a month and then restart on a lower dose, as opposed to giving me an AI so I wouldn't feel like crap and lowering the dose gradually. He also didn't want to do HCG, which I very much wanted to incorporate. Defy, however, does cost me a little more than going to my PCP, but they take a much deeper look at my full blood panel (and everything else, FWIW), they prioritize my symptoms over my numbers, and I get great care out of them. They even started my on nandrolone after a nagging shoulder wouldn't heal up on its own, and honestly nandrolone has been a game changer. Longer response than I intended, sorry. I just have a thing against the drive-throughs and I've been very pleased with Defy. [/QUOTE]
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