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<blockquote data-quote="jdthoosier" data-source="post: 123825" data-attributes="member: 14623"><p>I'm not going to plow through 30,000+ studies on statins on Pubmed nor am I intending to defend statins. </p><p></p><p> I'm merely pointing out this headline for this topic: ""No evidence exists to prove that having high levels of bad cholesterol causes heart disease, leading physicians have claimed" is bogus. Try googling that group "International Group of Cholesterol Skeptics" and find their history. Read the criticism/skepticism of this group. These guys go back for a while, e.g., 2008:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-international-network-of-cholesterol-skeptics/" target="_blank">The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics</a></p><p></p><p>They have the same old shtick used by the woo industry: sensational headlines, Big Pharma conspiracies, cherry-picking, distortion, and poorly written, non-peer reviewed "studies". </p><p></p><p>T<em>he formation of THINCS was apparently inspired by Ravnskov's book, published under the English title of The Cholesterol Myths: Exposing the Fallacy that Saturated Fat and Cholesterol Cause Heart Disease in 2000. Although respected as an authoritative guidebook for cholesterol "skeptics", this work engages in fallacies and deceptive rhetoric.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Ravnskov misinterprets the term "cause" in a scientific context (hint: it does not mean "<a href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Necessary_and_sufficient_conditions" target="_blank">sufficient condition</a>"), and thus, systematically argues against a <a href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Strawman" target="_blank">strawman</a> position that respectable scientists don't even hold - i.e. that the amount and type of dietary fat is the only factor determining blood cholesterol, which in turn is the only determinant of atherosclerosis and heart disease, and no other factor matters. Accordingly, at one point, he interprets a statistic of only 80% and not 100% of heart attack deaths being in people with atherosclerosis as a vindication of his theory (it's not.)</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Similarly, in citing the Framingham Heart Study and the declining rate of heart-disease mortality in Japan since 1970, he conflates <a href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation" target="_blank">correlation with causation</a> to support his hypothesis that high cholesterol is actually beneficial, while ignoring <a href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Confounding_factor" target="_blank">confounding factors</a> such as malnourishment or chronic illness that simultaneously lower both blood cholesterol and general health outcomes.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdthoosier, post: 123825, member: 14623"] I'm not going to plow through 30,000+ studies on statins on Pubmed nor am I intending to defend statins. I'm merely pointing out this headline for this topic: ""No evidence exists to prove that having high levels of bad cholesterol causes heart disease, leading physicians have claimed" is bogus. Try googling that group "International Group of Cholesterol Skeptics" and find their history. Read the criticism/skepticism of this group. These guys go back for a while, e.g., 2008: [URL="https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-international-network-of-cholesterol-skeptics/"]The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics[/URL] They have the same old shtick used by the woo industry: sensational headlines, Big Pharma conspiracies, cherry-picking, distortion, and poorly written, non-peer reviewed "studies". T[I]he formation of THINCS was apparently inspired by Ravnskov's book, published under the English title of The Cholesterol Myths: Exposing the Fallacy that Saturated Fat and Cholesterol Cause Heart Disease in 2000. Although respected as an authoritative guidebook for cholesterol "skeptics", this work engages in fallacies and deceptive rhetoric. Ravnskov misinterprets the term "cause" in a scientific context (hint: it does not mean "[URL='https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Necessary_and_sufficient_conditions']sufficient condition[/URL]"), and thus, systematically argues against a [URL='https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Strawman']strawman[/URL] position that respectable scientists don't even hold - i.e. that the amount and type of dietary fat is the only factor determining blood cholesterol, which in turn is the only determinant of atherosclerosis and heart disease, and no other factor matters. Accordingly, at one point, he interprets a statistic of only 80% and not 100% of heart attack deaths being in people with atherosclerosis as a vindication of his theory (it's not.) Similarly, in citing the Framingham Heart Study and the declining rate of heart-disease mortality in Japan since 1970, he conflates [URL='https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation']correlation with causation[/URL] to support his hypothesis that high cholesterol is actually beneficial, while ignoring [URL='https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Confounding_factor']confounding factors[/URL] such as malnourishment or chronic illness that simultaneously lower both blood cholesterol and general health outcomes.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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