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<blockquote data-quote="Bdawg" data-source="post: 60205" data-attributes="member: 14880"><p><span style="color: #333333">"</span><span style="color: #333333">Fast forward to today, and not a whole lot has changed. My body composition has not changed at all despite having a consistent good diet and workout often with good intensity. However the worst part of it all is I feel terrible. I don't like talking with people, I have literally zero libido, and rarely get AM wood. My sleep is poor - I become tired around 7pm and by the time I am in bed (9-10pm) I am unable to sleep, sometimes I lay in bed for hours before falling asleep. I have brain fog. I often feel emotional and get anxiety. My joints pop and click allot while working out. The most recent symptom that triggered me looking into hormones again was my hands and feet are ALWAYS cold. Does not matter when or where, they just never seem to be able to get warm. My skin is also really dry. I do find I feel significantly better in the summer, and I take vitamin D 10,000IU's per day but do not notice any effects. This peaked my interest in my old labs since I measured a few thyroid markers (but not enough). "</span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">First, your FREE testosterone is awesome and your E is LOW. People dream of having this, so I'm not sure what is the problem with this at all. It looks to me like your main issue is feeling tired all the time. My question then to you is, is this tiredness something that happened as a result of the diet change? Could it be possible that without a 'fuel' source of complex carbs or fats that your body is tired most of the time when you apply exercise and the workouts that you do?</span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span><span style="color: #333333">Second, like you, I have been doing </span><span style="color: #333333">Intermittent Fasting every day for the past month at least (16/8, sometimes 18/6). I've </span><span style="color: #333333">been on a strict ketogenic diet for past 86 days and mostly paleo for the prior 3 years (minus a year of bulking) before that, so I just want to add in here that I also get cold hands and cold feet which I have right now as I type this. I know for me, the cold hands/cold feet happens to me when I eat no carbs and sometimes if I don't eat enough fat. Since you're not doing keto, you're likely not getting enough of the 'fuel source' that being complex carbs or fat. Today for example I am eating pretty much just vegetables and some red meat, but if I was eating breakfast (eggs, bacon, cheese) I can guarantee you the 'fat' for fuel would ensure I didn't have cold hands or feet. Just something to think about.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Third, I recently upped my Vitamin D which was 'deficient' to an 82 in a month which my doctor said was not possible to test for, but he was wrong. But like you Vitamin D didn't do much to make me feel any different, so I just wanted to say that. If your Vitamin D is in the normal range which would be something like 80-100, then it's not something you need to worry about, in my opinion.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Fourth, You mention "your joints pop and click alot while working out". Mine do too if I haven't properly recovered them. Do you know about trigger point therapy? Similiar to what people do with a foam roller for their legs where trigger points are, you can do the same with a lacross ball for your other muscles in the upper back like your triceps (which you could also do on a foam roller). I encourage you to google this, because what is happening when you hear that clicking noise is that your tendon is clicking over the bone because of muscle weakness due to tightness. You need to increase your mobility in your muscles during downtime. A trigger point is simply where muscle fibers get twisted and pinch nerves that refer pain to other places in the body. This happens a lot more in people that are active like in a gym where you are constantly ripping fibers. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Fifth, I think as I mentioned above, that you need to address why your sleep is poor and you feel tired all the time. This could be a combination of not eating enough 'fuel' for your body, or some other underlying condition. You should get a metabolic panel done on your body to identify if any organs are having issues (like kidneys). I also, like you have trouble falling asleep at night. One thing that helps me is having fat before bed (a healthy fat you can try is almond butter - I have a peanut allergy so peanuts do not work for me). But without that, I also have the same issue as you do here, so it may not be an integrated source of the main issue. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Finally, I have not posted myself on this board with my own issues yet, but I think I will, because I also suffer from low libido and ED and despite my continuous bloodwork no one has been able to help me with my issues in years. I have not given up yet, but I want to say that hormones are a complex system and is not properly understood by doctors completely. There are things that science has not yet figured out. I look at your results as amazing because I have LOW free T and can not get that to rise. Yet with your HIGH free T and LOW E you are also having issues with libido and morning wood, just like me. I look forward to hearing back from you on your results from future labs and hope my answers provided you some comfort in some of the other areas.</span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">My remaining question to you is: Are you natural or do you take TRT? </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Cheers,</span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Bdawg</span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">PS - You mentioned anxiety so I will just throw this in there for you. On a recent hunt for information (tonight actually), I came across this for anxiety: </span>Gaia Herbs Ashwagandha. Take a look into it. </p><p></p><p>Here is a website I was using for examining medical studies and claims for herbs like the above:</p><p>examine.com/supplements/Ashwagandha/</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bdawg, post: 60205, member: 14880"] [COLOR=#333333]"[/COLOR][COLOR=#333333]Fast forward to today, and not a whole lot has changed. My body composition has not changed at all despite having a consistent good diet and workout often with good intensity. However the worst part of it all is I feel terrible. I don't like talking with people, I have literally zero libido, and rarely get AM wood. My sleep is poor - I become tired around 7pm and by the time I am in bed (9-10pm) I am unable to sleep, sometimes I lay in bed for hours before falling asleep. I have brain fog. I often feel emotional and get anxiety. My joints pop and click allot while working out. The most recent symptom that triggered me looking into hormones again was my hands and feet are ALWAYS cold. Does not matter when or where, they just never seem to be able to get warm. My skin is also really dry. I do find I feel significantly better in the summer, and I take vitamin D 10,000IU's per day but do not notice any effects. This peaked my interest in my old labs since I measured a few thyroid markers (but not enough). " First, your FREE testosterone is awesome and your E is LOW. People dream of having this, so I'm not sure what is the problem with this at all. It looks to me like your main issue is feeling tired all the time. My question then to you is, is this tiredness something that happened as a result of the diet change? Could it be possible that without a 'fuel' source of complex carbs or fats that your body is tired most of the time when you apply exercise and the workouts that you do? [/COLOR][COLOR=#333333]Second, like you, I have been doing [/COLOR][COLOR=#333333]Intermittent Fasting every day for the past month at least (16/8, sometimes 18/6). I've [/COLOR][COLOR=#333333]been on a strict ketogenic diet for past 86 days and mostly paleo for the prior 3 years (minus a year of bulking) before that, so I just want to add in here that I also get cold hands and cold feet which I have right now as I type this. I know for me, the cold hands/cold feet happens to me when I eat no carbs and sometimes if I don't eat enough fat. Since you're not doing keto, you're likely not getting enough of the 'fuel source' that being complex carbs or fat. Today for example I am eating pretty much just vegetables and some red meat, but if I was eating breakfast (eggs, bacon, cheese) I can guarantee you the 'fat' for fuel would ensure I didn't have cold hands or feet. Just something to think about.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]Third, I recently upped my Vitamin D which was 'deficient' to an 82 in a month which my doctor said was not possible to test for, but he was wrong. But like you Vitamin D didn't do much to make me feel any different, so I just wanted to say that. If your Vitamin D is in the normal range which would be something like 80-100, then it's not something you need to worry about, in my opinion.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]Fourth, You mention "your joints pop and click alot while working out". Mine do too if I haven't properly recovered them. Do you know about trigger point therapy? Similiar to what people do with a foam roller for their legs where trigger points are, you can do the same with a lacross ball for your other muscles in the upper back like your triceps (which you could also do on a foam roller). I encourage you to google this, because what is happening when you hear that clicking noise is that your tendon is clicking over the bone because of muscle weakness due to tightness. You need to increase your mobility in your muscles during downtime. A trigger point is simply where muscle fibers get twisted and pinch nerves that refer pain to other places in the body. This happens a lot more in people that are active like in a gym where you are constantly ripping fibers. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]Fifth, I think as I mentioned above, that you need to address why your sleep is poor and you feel tired all the time. This could be a combination of not eating enough 'fuel' for your body, or some other underlying condition. You should get a metabolic panel done on your body to identify if any organs are having issues (like kidneys). I also, like you have trouble falling asleep at night. One thing that helps me is having fat before bed (a healthy fat you can try is almond butter - I have a peanut allergy so peanuts do not work for me). But without that, I also have the same issue as you do here, so it may not be an integrated source of the main issue. Finally, I have not posted myself on this board with my own issues yet, but I think I will, because I also suffer from low libido and ED and despite my continuous bloodwork no one has been able to help me with my issues in years. I have not given up yet, but I want to say that hormones are a complex system and is not properly understood by doctors completely. There are things that science has not yet figured out. I look at your results as amazing because I have LOW free T and can not get that to rise. Yet with your HIGH free T and LOW E you are also having issues with libido and morning wood, just like me. I look forward to hearing back from you on your results from future labs and hope my answers provided you some comfort in some of the other areas. My remaining question to you is: Are you natural or do you take TRT? Cheers, Bdawg PS - You mentioned anxiety so I will just throw this in there for you. On a recent hunt for information (tonight actually), I came across this for anxiety: [/COLOR]Gaia Herbs Ashwagandha. Take a look into it. Here is a website I was using for examining medical studies and claims for herbs like the above: examine.com/supplements/Ashwagandha/ [/QUOTE]
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