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New Member - Seeking Advice - Have Labs - Really lost and need some help on right direction of TRT
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<blockquote data-quote="Systemlord" data-source="post: 105125" data-attributes="member: 15832"><p>I have heard this song and dance before, your story is similar to my own and just about everyone here.</p><p></p><p>You might have been turn down do to insurance having a cut off point of 300> and the doctor is just following protocol, the problem with most insurance doctors is they never consider the age of a man when looking at high numbers, most 80 year olds score in the low 300-400 ranges and even President Trump scores higher (441) than you who is 71 years old. The average for a man your age is 650-700 ng/dL, so your doctor has failed to account for age when looking at your numbers. Medical school turns doctors into robots who are trained to not think for themselves, they are taught to fixate on lab numbers. </p><p></p><p>Insurance doctors will be unable to help you at this point, insurance companies don't yet have any data regarding the benefits of backfilling the pathways with HCG or allow the use of an aromatase inhibitor to help control estrogen production for either TRT and HCG. There's no billing code for a man to be prescribe a female breast cancer drug. Insurance is basically useless for TRT as many doctors are way behind in proper treatment procedures and those doctors that know what their doing do not take insurance. </p><p></p><p>Sure you could find another doctor in your insurance network, but I doubt the experience will be much different. 440 ng/dL is the threshold for cardiovascular diseases in men, if your doctor and these insurances companies would pay attention to the data TRT would be easier to get treatment for. </p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27843074" target="_blank">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27843074</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Systemlord, post: 105125, member: 15832"] I have heard this song and dance before, your story is similar to my own and just about everyone here. You might have been turn down do to insurance having a cut off point of 300> and the doctor is just following protocol, the problem with most insurance doctors is they never consider the age of a man when looking at high numbers, most 80 year olds score in the low 300-400 ranges and even President Trump scores higher (441) than you who is 71 years old. The average for a man your age is 650-700 ng/dL, so your doctor has failed to account for age when looking at your numbers. Medical school turns doctors into robots who are trained to not think for themselves, they are taught to fixate on lab numbers. Insurance doctors will be unable to help you at this point, insurance companies don't yet have any data regarding the benefits of backfilling the pathways with HCG or allow the use of an aromatase inhibitor to help control estrogen production for either TRT and HCG. There's no billing code for a man to be prescribe a female breast cancer drug. Insurance is basically useless for TRT as many doctors are way behind in proper treatment procedures and those doctors that know what their doing do not take insurance. Sure you could find another doctor in your insurance network, but I doubt the experience will be much different. 440 ng/dL is the threshold for cardiovascular diseases in men, if your doctor and these insurances companies would pay attention to the data TRT would be easier to get treatment for. [URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27843074[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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