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<blockquote data-quote="munch520" data-source="post: 53683" data-attributes="member: 14384"><p>Hey to all,</p><p></p><p>A video with John Crisler, Nelson Vergel and Jay Campbell brought me here, so I wanted to come learn more and share my experiences.</p><p></p><p>I'm 30, recently got a pretty wild blood test back and I'm going to be going down the HRT road. Here's my pertinent details:</p><p></p><p>-6'1, probably 12-15% body fat, 195lbs, athletic (core lifts 3-4x a week, running a few times a week at 2-3 miles a pop)</p><p>-Severe head on car accident (net speed 70+ mph) in 02/2015 resulting in mTBI, I've been told my hormones being out of whack could be because of this</p><p>-Severe anxiety, some depression, lethargy, etc. manifested 6 mos later and persisted</p><p>-Prescribed 10mg Lexapro, took the easy way out and took it for a while (10 mos) but then tapered off</p><p></p><p>A buddy recommended I go get a full panel done by a DO here in Ohio that specializes in HRT and related stuff. So here's the #s</p><p></p><p>Growth hormone: 0.1 ng/ml (5 ng/ml)</p><p>IGF-1: 198 ng/ml (>200 ng/ml)</p><p>IGF BP-3: 3592 ug/L (4000 ug/L) </p><p>ACTH: 33 pg/ml </p><p></p><p>LH: 3.9 (1.7-8.6 mlU/ml)</p><p>FSH: 2.8 (7 mlU/ml)</p><p>Total Test: 987 (348-1197 ng/dL)</p><p>Free Test: 12.4 pg/mL (8.7-25.1 ng/dL) </p><p>Estrone: 62 pg/mL (12-72 pg/mL)</p><p>Estradiol: 9.8 pg/mL (7.6-42.6 pg/mL)</p><p></p><p>Cortisol: 10.9 ug/dL (6.2-19.4 ug/dL)</p><p></p><p>Vit B: 589 pg/mL (211-946 pg/mL) </p><p>Vit D: 51 ng/mL (30-100 ng/mL)</p><p></p><p>'TSH is high, suggests hypothyroidism' </p><p>TPO/Thyroid Peroxidase: 220 (<35)</p><p>TSH: 7.89ulU/mL (high) (.450-4.5 ulU/mL)</p><p>T3 free: 3.6 pg/ml (norm) (>2.5pg/ml)</p><p>T4 free: 1.21n g/ml (low) (0.82-1.77 ng/ml)</p><p>rT3: 18.9 ng/dL (norm) (8-25 ng/dL)</p><p>TSH index: 8.05 (HAP) [1.3 - 4.1] (PI)</p><p>T3/rT3 ratio: 19 (low) (>20)</p><p></p><p>So I was diagnosed with hypogonadism and possible hypothyroidism...which could explain the mental issues I've been experiencing. Treatment right now is as follows:</p><p>-Pregnenelone 10mg/day to start </p><p>-Clomiphene Citrate 25mg, every 3 days </p><p>-DHEA 10mg 2x/day</p><p></p><p>-Brain DHA and ultranutrident multivitamin on the supplement side</p><p></p><p>I've delved into the positives and negatives of this HRT courses vs TRT and I like the approach for now, seems more natural and less aggressive to me, we'll see.</p><p></p><p>My main question, which has received many different responses...is: is hypothyroidsm <em>because of</em> the low T, or are the two even related? I'm worried I might be treating the hormones, when the thyroid is the genesis of all these issues...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="munch520, post: 53683, member: 14384"] Hey to all, A video with John Crisler, Nelson Vergel and Jay Campbell brought me here, so I wanted to come learn more and share my experiences. I'm 30, recently got a pretty wild blood test back and I'm going to be going down the HRT road. Here's my pertinent details: -6'1, probably 12-15% body fat, 195lbs, athletic (core lifts 3-4x a week, running a few times a week at 2-3 miles a pop) -Severe head on car accident (net speed 70+ mph) in 02/2015 resulting in mTBI, I've been told my hormones being out of whack could be because of this -Severe anxiety, some depression, lethargy, etc. manifested 6 mos later and persisted -Prescribed 10mg Lexapro, took the easy way out and took it for a while (10 mos) but then tapered off A buddy recommended I go get a full panel done by a DO here in Ohio that specializes in HRT and related stuff. So here's the #s Growth hormone: 0.1 ng/ml (5 ng/ml) IGF-1: 198 ng/ml (>200 ng/ml) IGF BP-3: 3592 ug/L (4000 ug/L) ACTH: 33 pg/ml LH: 3.9 (1.7-8.6 mlU/ml) FSH: 2.8 (7 mlU/ml) Total Test: 987 (348-1197 ng/dL) Free Test: 12.4 pg/mL (8.7-25.1 ng/dL) Estrone: 62 pg/mL (12-72 pg/mL) Estradiol: 9.8 pg/mL (7.6-42.6 pg/mL) Cortisol: 10.9 ug/dL (6.2-19.4 ug/dL) Vit B: 589 pg/mL (211-946 pg/mL) Vit D: 51 ng/mL (30-100 ng/mL) 'TSH is high, suggests hypothyroidism' TPO/Thyroid Peroxidase: 220 (<35) TSH: 7.89ulU/mL (high) (.450-4.5 ulU/mL) T3 free: 3.6 pg/ml (norm) (>2.5pg/ml) T4 free: 1.21n g/ml (low) (0.82-1.77 ng/ml) rT3: 18.9 ng/dL (norm) (8-25 ng/dL) TSH index: 8.05 (HAP) [1.3 - 4.1] (PI) T3/rT3 ratio: 19 (low) (>20) So I was diagnosed with hypogonadism and possible hypothyroidism...which could explain the mental issues I've been experiencing. Treatment right now is as follows: -Pregnenelone 10mg/day to start -Clomiphene Citrate 25mg, every 3 days -DHEA 10mg 2x/day -Brain DHA and ultranutrident multivitamin on the supplement side I've delved into the positives and negatives of this HRT courses vs TRT and I like the approach for now, seems more natural and less aggressive to me, we'll see. My main question, which has received many different responses...is: is hypothyroidsm [I]because of[/I] the low T, or are the two even related? I'm worried I might be treating the hormones, when the thyroid is the genesis of all these issues... [/QUOTE]
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