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<blockquote data-quote="Re-Ride" data-source="post: 29921" data-attributes="member: 8395"><p>Yes, of course get the labs now. Get as complete a fasting baseline as you can afford. Ask your primary. CBC lipids and more should be covered by insurance. Use Discounted Labs for any that are not. If you plan it right you can get the covered and not covered labs drawn at the same time which will make them more useful. </p><p></p><p>You said your serum T tripled following PCT w/ hCG @27 yrs and remained high for a year on it's own. Then you had an injury. Your energy has been ebbing accompanied by decreased libido. You are having trouble loosing the 20-30 lbs you feel necessary. </p><p></p><p>Vince is right, your history suggests a good chance of lifestyle driven restoration. You might have to eliminate exposure to environmental toxins or cut out foods you now consider healthy. Your immediate goal is diagnosis.</p><p></p><p>Personally I wouldn't waste time with a generic endo unless you know in advance that he's of the one tenth of 1% of endos who employ the latest protocols or, for that matter, any sensible HRT -if- that's what's ultimately indicated.</p><p></p><p> It doesn't matter what anyone thinks on here. After exhausting diet and lifestyle changes and with baseline labs in hand your doc should discuss a possible approach which might well be low dose hCG ( 150 - 500 iu ) with a typical frequency of 3x weekly. Frequency is increased up to daily before dosage is increased. </p><p></p><p> The pkg insert for hCG recommends up to 4000 iu hCG per dose for hypo however such protocols are uncommon. Few here see hCG mono as realistic goal. Speaking for myself its been great for 9 months and counting. IMO pp jump on aromatase inhibitor too fast or do not allow the months necessary for the body to adjust or to heal itself from chronic low serum t. </p><p></p><p> I have been unable to find any post where a reasonable person with hypogonatic hypogonadism regretted trying a low dose hCG protocol first. Your own prior experience was highly successful yet you are prudently proceeding with caution. Let that prior experience and a physician who is more interested in resolving symptoms than chasing numbers be your guide. You can always add cyp or gel later.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Re-Ride, post: 29921, member: 8395"] Yes, of course get the labs now. Get as complete a fasting baseline as you can afford. Ask your primary. CBC lipids and more should be covered by insurance. Use Discounted Labs for any that are not. If you plan it right you can get the covered and not covered labs drawn at the same time which will make them more useful. You said your serum T tripled following PCT w/ hCG @27 yrs and remained high for a year on it's own. Then you had an injury. Your energy has been ebbing accompanied by decreased libido. You are having trouble loosing the 20-30 lbs you feel necessary. Vince is right, your history suggests a good chance of lifestyle driven restoration. You might have to eliminate exposure to environmental toxins or cut out foods you now consider healthy. Your immediate goal is diagnosis. Personally I wouldn't waste time with a generic endo unless you know in advance that he's of the one tenth of 1% of endos who employ the latest protocols or, for that matter, any sensible HRT -if- that's what's ultimately indicated. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks on here. After exhausting diet and lifestyle changes and with baseline labs in hand your doc should discuss a possible approach which might well be low dose hCG ( 150 - 500 iu ) with a typical frequency of 3x weekly. Frequency is increased up to daily before dosage is increased. The pkg insert for hCG recommends up to 4000 iu hCG per dose for hypo however such protocols are uncommon. Few here see hCG mono as realistic goal. Speaking for myself its been great for 9 months and counting. IMO pp jump on aromatase inhibitor too fast or do not allow the months necessary for the body to adjust or to heal itself from chronic low serum t. I have been unable to find any post where a reasonable person with hypogonatic hypogonadism regretted trying a low dose hCG protocol first. Your own prior experience was highly successful yet you are prudently proceeding with caution. Let that prior experience and a physician who is more interested in resolving symptoms than chasing numbers be your guide. You can always add cyp or gel later. [/QUOTE]
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