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Testosterone Side Effect Management
Nelson Vergel 's Testosterone plus HCG Protocol
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<blockquote data-quote="Cataceous" data-source="post: 189569" data-attributes="member: 38109"><p>I've done hundreds of these dual-drug, single-syringe injections, and what works for me is to alternate which drug is drawn first. You start by injecting air into the first vial. The injected air volume should be slightly more than double the size of the normal drug withdrawal. Next you draw the drug from this vial. After this you immediately draw the normal volume of the second drug from the second vial without pre-injecting air. Finally, inject as usual. When it's time for the next dose you repeat the procedure, except you reverse the order of the drugs. In this way you avoid overly low pressure in either vial that might suck the first-drawn drug into it. It's preferable to avoid overshooting the second draw, because pushing back the second drug may cause some cross-contamination of the vial with the first drug.</p><p></p><p>When a water-based drug such as hCG is drawn second after an oil-based drug you may see "bubbles" appearing in the oil. But this is not air. The water is heavier than oil, so its droplets tend to penetrate the oil, giving the appearance of bubbles. This is not a problem, and you should simply make sure that the volume in the syringe after the second draw is the sum of the desired volumes for the two drugs.</p><p></p><p>Example: Suppose the normal doses are 0.2 mL of testosterone cypionate and 0.1 mL of hCG. For the first injection you inject a hair over 0.4 mL of air into the cypionate vial and then withdraw 0.2 mL of the cypionate. Next you draw 0.1 mL from the hCG vial. The syringe should now contain 0.3 mL in total, which you inject as usual.</p><p></p><p>For the second injection you start by injecting a hair over 0.2 mL of air into the vial containing hCG and then draw 0.1 mL of hCG. Next, you draw 0.2 mL from the testosterone vial, without an air pre-injection. Once again the syringe has 0.3 mL of the two drugs, which you inject.</p><p></p><p>For the third injection you are back to cypionate as the first drawn, and so on.</p><p></p><p>On average this procedure keeps the internal pressures of the two vials close to local air pressure, or slightly above. The stickler for detail may note that the vial used second for the first injection may stay slightly under-pressure. But this can be fixed with additional air during the draw for the second injection, or alternatively just make sure your hCG remains pressurized when you originally add water to it, and use it second for the first injection.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cataceous, post: 189569, member: 38109"] I've done hundreds of these dual-drug, single-syringe injections, and what works for me is to alternate which drug is drawn first. You start by injecting air into the first vial. The injected air volume should be slightly more than double the size of the normal drug withdrawal. Next you draw the drug from this vial. After this you immediately draw the normal volume of the second drug from the second vial without pre-injecting air. Finally, inject as usual. When it's time for the next dose you repeat the procedure, except you reverse the order of the drugs. In this way you avoid overly low pressure in either vial that might suck the first-drawn drug into it. It's preferable to avoid overshooting the second draw, because pushing back the second drug may cause some cross-contamination of the vial with the first drug. When a water-based drug such as hCG is drawn second after an oil-based drug you may see "bubbles" appearing in the oil. But this is not air. The water is heavier than oil, so its droplets tend to penetrate the oil, giving the appearance of bubbles. This is not a problem, and you should simply make sure that the volume in the syringe after the second draw is the sum of the desired volumes for the two drugs. Example: Suppose the normal doses are 0.2 mL of testosterone cypionate and 0.1 mL of hCG. For the first injection you inject a hair over 0.4 mL of air into the cypionate vial and then withdraw 0.2 mL of the cypionate. Next you draw 0.1 mL from the hCG vial. The syringe should now contain 0.3 mL in total, which you inject as usual. For the second injection you start by injecting a hair over 0.2 mL of air into the vial containing hCG and then draw 0.1 mL of hCG. Next, you draw 0.2 mL from the testosterone vial, without an air pre-injection. Once again the syringe has 0.3 mL of the two drugs, which you inject. For the third injection you are back to cypionate as the first drawn, and so on. On average this procedure keeps the internal pressures of the two vials close to local air pressure, or slightly above. The stickler for detail may note that the vial used second for the first injection may stay slightly under-pressure. But this can be fixed with additional air during the draw for the second injection, or alternatively just make sure your hCG remains pressurized when you originally add water to it, and use it second for the first injection. [/QUOTE]
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