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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
Need some advice, increase HCG or add clomiphene
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<blockquote data-quote="bullseye55" data-source="post: 164735" data-attributes="member: 39890"><p>I am a 64 y/o male, non-diabetic, normal blood pressure, been on compounded cream TRT replacement therapy last 4 years. Was experiencing some testicular shrinkage so started HCG two years ago at 350u every other day now up to 500u every other day. A lower dosage of the cream along with the HCG will get me total T of around 1000, free in 20s. The HCG alone I get to about 450-500. With nothing I drop to low 200s and free T in low single digits. I haven't been totally satisfied with testicular recovery even with HCG. With the current regimen maintaining T level around 1000, free T 20's the hemoglobin and hematocrit creep up and require occasional blood donations. I have had two of Discount Labs 17-OH tests and they both came back around 145ng/dl below the goal of >215. My question is should I increase the HCG dose to raise the 17-OH or consider adding on possibly 25mg of clomiphene to attempt it through a different pathway and stop the topical cream. I'd like to get a bit more testicular recovery and maybe improve semen quantity/quality. It is pretty minimal and watery. It could be the testicles are at max and it's just going to take TRT to get me to the level i would like to maintain. I am guessing I'd need 90 days to fully test HCG/CC option without the topical TRT. Just increasing the HCG with the current TRT cream probably would give me answers in 30 days. I feel good on what I am doing, just wondering if my body could do more of the work. Great forum by the way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bullseye55, post: 164735, member: 39890"] I am a 64 y/o male, non-diabetic, normal blood pressure, been on compounded cream TRT replacement therapy last 4 years. Was experiencing some testicular shrinkage so started HCG two years ago at 350u every other day now up to 500u every other day. A lower dosage of the cream along with the HCG will get me total T of around 1000, free in 20s. The HCG alone I get to about 450-500. With nothing I drop to low 200s and free T in low single digits. I haven't been totally satisfied with testicular recovery even with HCG. With the current regimen maintaining T level around 1000, free T 20's the hemoglobin and hematocrit creep up and require occasional blood donations. I have had two of Discount Labs 17-OH tests and they both came back around 145ng/dl below the goal of >215. My question is should I increase the HCG dose to raise the 17-OH or consider adding on possibly 25mg of clomiphene to attempt it through a different pathway and stop the topical cream. I'd like to get a bit more testicular recovery and maybe improve semen quantity/quality. It is pretty minimal and watery. It could be the testicles are at max and it's just going to take TRT to get me to the level i would like to maintain. I am guessing I'd need 90 days to fully test HCG/CC option without the topical TRT. Just increasing the HCG with the current TRT cream probably would give me answers in 30 days. I feel good on what I am doing, just wondering if my body could do more of the work. Great forum by the way. [/QUOTE]
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