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Need help with sleep management on TRT
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<blockquote data-quote="DragonBits" data-source="post: 146751" data-attributes="member: 18023"><p>I have had this sort of problem for a long time. Waking up in the middle of the night, or at it's worse, waking up every 2 hours. I think it's related to stress and being a light sleeper. Though I haven't had a cortisol test or sleep study.</p><p></p><p>I tried Melatonin when I wake up at 2:00 AM, sometimes it works, often it doesn't.</p><p></p><p>Right now I take l-theanine, gaba (Gamma-Aminobutyric acid), glycine, melation, CBD oil, time release Melatonin , Magtein (magnesium) before sleep. </p><p></p><p>Throw the kitchen sink at it.</p><p></p><p>I only take a tiny amount of theanine, but ~ 2 grams of gaba, both of which help with stress and relaxation. Gaba for sure has an effect, it lowers my systolic / diastolic BP by about 10-20 points in 10 min. I think theanine works to relax me, but not sure, glycine did seem to increase my dreams, CBD oil seems to help a little.</p><p></p><p>I think the most effective was Magtein and Gaba, and recently I tried 0.125 AI, as I believe if my E2 is higher than normal it also disturbs my sleep. I am sure E2 is higher than normal, but I have no idea how high.</p><p></p><p>Melatonin "works" to make me sleepy, but that doesn't last long. I get into the habit that I think I need it, but once or twice I didn't use it and I still feel asleep OK.</p><p></p><p>Over a year ago, I would sometimes eat a bowl of pasta when I woke up at 2:00 AM, sure it works and makes me sleepy, but plays hell with my blood glucose and got my A1C up to 5.8, so that isn't worth it. Now that I am doing lower carb, eating carbs before bedtime isn't in the cards.</p><p></p><p>I get the feeling if I don't exercise often stress also builds up. Though if I exercise very hard then muscle pain tends to wake me up.</p><p></p><p>Basically, nearly anything can cause me to not sleep well all night long. So far I don't have a good grip on a "protocol" that works nearly all the time, and I don't know what I can eliminate as not effective.</p><p></p><p>I tried cortisol manager from Integrative, it didn't seem to have any effect. </p><p></p><p>I take any supplements like b vitamins or CoQ10 very early in the day so as not to cause a sleep problem. </p><p></p><p>I use a fitbit charge 3 to track sleep, when I am sleeping good I get !6.5 hours sleep average a week, when I am stressed it drops to 5.5 average.</p><p></p><p>The watch estimates wake time, rem sleep, light sleep, deep sleep. On a good night I will get 7 hours 13 min, 1 47 min awake, 1 7 min REM, 5 hours light, hour 6 min deep sleep.</p><p></p><p>The watch says I wake up multiple times, but I am not aware of it, maybe only aware of waking up once or twice.</p><p></p><p>When I get the time, I will do the sleep study and see what it says.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DragonBits, post: 146751, member: 18023"] I have had this sort of problem for a long time. Waking up in the middle of the night, or at it's worse, waking up every 2 hours. I think it's related to stress and being a light sleeper. Though I haven't had a cortisol test or sleep study. I tried Melatonin when I wake up at 2:00 AM, sometimes it works, often it doesn't. Right now I take l-theanine, gaba (Gamma-Aminobutyric acid), glycine, melation, CBD oil, time release Melatonin , Magtein (magnesium) before sleep. Throw the kitchen sink at it. I only take a tiny amount of theanine, but ~ 2 grams of gaba, both of which help with stress and relaxation. Gaba for sure has an effect, it lowers my systolic / diastolic BP by about 10-20 points in 10 min. I think theanine works to relax me, but not sure, glycine did seem to increase my dreams, CBD oil seems to help a little. I think the most effective was Magtein and Gaba, and recently I tried 0.125 AI, as I believe if my E2 is higher than normal it also disturbs my sleep. I am sure E2 is higher than normal, but I have no idea how high. Melatonin "works" to make me sleepy, but that doesn't last long. I get into the habit that I think I need it, but once or twice I didn't use it and I still feel asleep OK. Over a year ago, I would sometimes eat a bowl of pasta when I woke up at 2:00 AM, sure it works and makes me sleepy, but plays hell with my blood glucose and got my A1C up to 5.8, so that isn't worth it. Now that I am doing lower carb, eating carbs before bedtime isn't in the cards. I get the feeling if I don't exercise often stress also builds up. Though if I exercise very hard then muscle pain tends to wake me up. Basically, nearly anything can cause me to not sleep well all night long. So far I don't have a good grip on a "protocol" that works nearly all the time, and I don't know what I can eliminate as not effective. I tried cortisol manager from Integrative, it didn't seem to have any effect. I take any supplements like b vitamins or CoQ10 very early in the day so as not to cause a sleep problem. I use a fitbit charge 3 to track sleep, when I am sleeping good I get !6.5 hours sleep average a week, when I am stressed it drops to 5.5 average. The watch estimates wake time, rem sleep, light sleep, deep sleep. On a good night I will get 7 hours 13 min, 1 47 min awake, 1 7 min REM, 5 hours light, hour 6 min deep sleep. The watch says I wake up multiple times, but I am not aware of it, maybe only aware of waking up once or twice. When I get the time, I will do the sleep study and see what it says. [/QUOTE]
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