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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
Need for Thyroid Supplementation while on TRT.....
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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymon" data-source="post: 223152" data-attributes="member: 42608"><p>People’s bodies seem to be either T4-focused or T3-focused, relying on intracellular T3 by T4 conversion or more things just coming in from T3 flat out into the cell. T4 usually fixes most things for me that T3 causes in short order, including giving me energy and making me feel like most people would feel on TRT, like my mind is dancing and happy all the time and effort feels more rewarding. </p><p></p><p>Another wrinkle might be that more thyroid reduces CBG, which is like the cortisol SHBG. My cortisol’s usually too low, and without that to help get it to cells that in naturopathic theory facilitate thyroid hormones to work, taking more thyroid might make me functionally hypothyroid without SHBG changes and kind of feel like I’m low test. My own bloodwork shows wonky things too on thyroid, with E2 going up and almost all my T being free at one point, which would seem to be more that it’s not going into the cells than anything else I would imagine. Tried adrenal cortex for a bit and that instantly had my dick hard as a rock, and later on taking cortisol stuff at times helped too, though I wouldn’t recommend it. When your dick doesn’t work you have a lot of time to think things through as you can see.</p><p></p><p>I was on 31ish mcg T3 in 5 hits for a bit after coming off T4 alongside 2x15mcg T3, and my dick worked amazingly great for a bit alongside other positive things, then that dissipated as the T4 seemingly left my system. Added in T4 again at 25mcg and that helped, then 50, and I’m on 75 now as I come down on T3 and maybe even off again. The more T4 I get and the less T3 I have, the more of a human being I feel like, particularly if I have potassium. T3/T4 in general increase and activate sodium/potassium pump sites, so either sodium or potassium affect me a lot more while on thyroid hormones. Too much sodium can actually break my dick and dopamine levels, whereas potassium does the opposite. Fairly quickly too, as in within a day. Also lose the ability to sweat with more salt, potassium drinks restoring all that and the vividness of all my senses.</p><p></p><p>Since lowering T3, and raising T4, I actually dropped weight on the scale while making 0 dietary changes and eating the same things exactly on different days and working out the same to the letter. Muscles are fuller too any time T3 goes down, usually happening over the next day or two even with a 6mcg drop. If I have potassium on this scheme then when I have more carbs I can actually feel and see my muscles twitching and then by the next day they’re more pumped. I don’t seem like the type that would have had higher thyroid ever in his life, so it could be that I’m hyper sensitive to it.</p><p></p><p>I’ve known many guys that ran T3 for bodybuilding fat loss cycles that took about a month to feel recovered from them. If after a bit more off T3 and a blood test and your dick’s still broke, I might consider trying 25mcg of levothyroxine in the morning. That’d be a quarter of most tablets sold at 100mcg. For me, any addition’s usually fairly noticeable in short order, within days, if not the next day when I would take it before bed (don’t do that any more since it helps my gut more during the day in divided doses). Hopefully you won’t need anything, but that helps me, and goes faster when I have potassium drinks.</p><p></p><p>Glad I’m not the only one whose dick was broken down by thyroid hormones.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymon, post: 223152, member: 42608"] People’s bodies seem to be either T4-focused or T3-focused, relying on intracellular T3 by T4 conversion or more things just coming in from T3 flat out into the cell. T4 usually fixes most things for me that T3 causes in short order, including giving me energy and making me feel like most people would feel on TRT, like my mind is dancing and happy all the time and effort feels more rewarding. Another wrinkle might be that more thyroid reduces CBG, which is like the cortisol SHBG. My cortisol’s usually too low, and without that to help get it to cells that in naturopathic theory facilitate thyroid hormones to work, taking more thyroid might make me functionally hypothyroid without SHBG changes and kind of feel like I’m low test. My own bloodwork shows wonky things too on thyroid, with E2 going up and almost all my T being free at one point, which would seem to be more that it’s not going into the cells than anything else I would imagine. Tried adrenal cortex for a bit and that instantly had my dick hard as a rock, and later on taking cortisol stuff at times helped too, though I wouldn’t recommend it. When your dick doesn’t work you have a lot of time to think things through as you can see. I was on 31ish mcg T3 in 5 hits for a bit after coming off T4 alongside 2x15mcg T3, and my dick worked amazingly great for a bit alongside other positive things, then that dissipated as the T4 seemingly left my system. Added in T4 again at 25mcg and that helped, then 50, and I’m on 75 now as I come down on T3 and maybe even off again. The more T4 I get and the less T3 I have, the more of a human being I feel like, particularly if I have potassium. T3/T4 in general increase and activate sodium/potassium pump sites, so either sodium or potassium affect me a lot more while on thyroid hormones. Too much sodium can actually break my dick and dopamine levels, whereas potassium does the opposite. Fairly quickly too, as in within a day. Also lose the ability to sweat with more salt, potassium drinks restoring all that and the vividness of all my senses. Since lowering T3, and raising T4, I actually dropped weight on the scale while making 0 dietary changes and eating the same things exactly on different days and working out the same to the letter. Muscles are fuller too any time T3 goes down, usually happening over the next day or two even with a 6mcg drop. If I have potassium on this scheme then when I have more carbs I can actually feel and see my muscles twitching and then by the next day they’re more pumped. I don’t seem like the type that would have had higher thyroid ever in his life, so it could be that I’m hyper sensitive to it. I’ve known many guys that ran T3 for bodybuilding fat loss cycles that took about a month to feel recovered from them. If after a bit more off T3 and a blood test and your dick’s still broke, I might consider trying 25mcg of levothyroxine in the morning. That’d be a quarter of most tablets sold at 100mcg. For me, any addition’s usually fairly noticeable in short order, within days, if not the next day when I would take it before bed (don’t do that any more since it helps my gut more during the day in divided doses). Hopefully you won’t need anything, but that helps me, and goes faster when I have potassium drinks. Glad I’m not the only one whose dick was broken down by thyroid hormones. [/QUOTE]
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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
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Need for Thyroid Supplementation while on TRT.....
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