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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Nandrolone for a cancer patient?
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 220234" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p><strong> I've reachced a point where it seems the tide is turning, and I may be able to start recovery.</strong></p><p></p><p>Glad to hear after everything you have been dealing with over the last 2.5 years.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><em>I've lost weight, and more importantly, muscle mass, as my body composition has shifted due to inactivity and in ability to exercise. I am down to 135 pounds, and my weight is still ever so slowly decreasing.</em></strong></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p><strong><em>I want to try Nandrolone to help rebuild.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>When using testosterone/AAS with the goal of increasing muscle mass/strength the key factors are diet/training.</p><p></p><p>Keeping in mind genetics will have the final say.</p><p></p><p>No amount of testosterone/AAS is going to work without taking in enough calories (carbohydrates/proteins/fats) and following a proper weight training protocol.</p><p></p><p>Most men on trt are using 100-200 mg/week which would result in having healthy, high, absurdly high FT levels depending on the protocol (dose T/injection frequency).</p><p></p><p>One of the main benefits of having healthy testosterone levels is improvements in body composition (increased muscle/decreased adipose), especially when following a proper diet/training regimen.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that gains in muscle mass/strength are not going to be <u>significant</u> when using therapeutic doses of 100-200 mg T/week.</p><p></p><p>You would get more bang for your buck injecting 200 mg T/week vs 100 mg.</p><p></p><p>Anyone claiming to get huge on 200 mg T/week is carrying a shitload of water!</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately many will not tolerate the higher-end dose of 200mg/week due to the side effects caused by running very high FT levels.</p><p></p><p>Even then some may struggle running 150mg T/week due to hitting very high FT levels.</p><p></p><p>Comes down to the individual.</p><p></p><p>The workaround would be lowering your T dose <100 mg/week and adding in nandrolone 100-200 mg/week.</p><p></p><p>Its main advantage is its strong anabolic/anti-catabolic properties and is known to bind strongly to the AR (>testosterone).</p><p></p><p>ND is a potent available anabolic steroid with minimal androgenic side effects.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><em>Thoughts about dose? I need enough to turn around a serious degree of muscle loss.n I have always been lean and a hard gainer, but have been up to 150 pounds of strong lean muscle in the past in my 50's. I need to regain about 15 pounds of muscle and burn fat off this emaciated body.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>I would look into 200 mg ND/week for 12 weeks.</p><p></p><p>Overall sides should be minimal other than increased RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit.</p><p></p><p>The dose will play a big role and even then comes down to the individual.</p><p></p><p>No one can tell you how your body will react to said compound only time will tell.</p><p></p><p>What you really need to hammer down is your nutrition and training protocol.</p><p></p><p>You are a hard gainer so forget the low-carb/keto, carnivore diets.</p><p></p><p>Be far better off following a moderate-high complex carb, moderate protein, moderate fat diet.</p><p></p><p>Regardless of your body type, it is much easier to pack on quality mass when consuming complex carbs.</p><p></p><p>Muscle will always be bigger, fuller, and harder when glycogen stores are topped up!</p><p></p><p>Strength/recovery is also better.</p><p></p><p>Taking in enough quality calories (complex carbs, proteins, fats), meeting your daily protein requirements (1 gram/pound LBM) spread evenly throughout the day combined with a good training plan and you will be good to go.</p><p></p><p>You are on 70 mg T/week.</p><p></p><p>Have no clue where your trough FT sits but hopefully it is where you feel best.</p><p></p><p>If you feel more comfortable starting on 100 mg ND/week do what you feel is best but you will get more bang for your buck going with 150-200mg/week.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><em>Anyway, I feel safe to start Nandrolone, but I am afraid that when the time comes to reduce dose or stop, I will go trough Hell again. So my main question is: Has anyone had a bad time getting off Nandrolone?</em></strong></p><p></p><p>You will maximize your gains/minimal sides overall using 200 mg ND/week for 12 weeks but keep in mind that if you decide to stop it would be highly doubtful that you can maintain those new gains.</p><p></p><p>Some may just decide to go back to using therapeutic doses 50-100 mg/week long-term for the joint/bone pain benefits.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 220234, member: 13851"] [B] I've reachced a point where it seems the tide is turning, and I may be able to start recovery.[/B] Glad to hear after everything you have been dealing with over the last 2.5 years. [B][I]I've lost weight, and more importantly, muscle mass, as my body composition has shifted due to inactivity and in ability to exercise. I am down to 135 pounds, and my weight is still ever so slowly decreasing. I want to try Nandrolone to help rebuild.[/I][/B] When using testosterone/AAS with the goal of increasing muscle mass/strength the key factors are diet/training. Keeping in mind genetics will have the final say. No amount of testosterone/AAS is going to work without taking in enough calories (carbohydrates/proteins/fats) and following a proper weight training protocol. Most men on trt are using 100-200 mg/week which would result in having healthy, high, absurdly high FT levels depending on the protocol (dose T/injection frequency). One of the main benefits of having healthy testosterone levels is improvements in body composition (increased muscle/decreased adipose), especially when following a proper diet/training regimen. Keep in mind that gains in muscle mass/strength are not going to be [U]significant[/U] when using therapeutic doses of 100-200 mg T/week. You would get more bang for your buck injecting 200 mg T/week vs 100 mg. Anyone claiming to get huge on 200 mg T/week is carrying a shitload of water! Unfortunately many will not tolerate the higher-end dose of 200mg/week due to the side effects caused by running very high FT levels. Even then some may struggle running 150mg T/week due to hitting very high FT levels. Comes down to the individual. The workaround would be lowering your T dose <100 mg/week and adding in nandrolone 100-200 mg/week. Its main advantage is its strong anabolic/anti-catabolic properties and is known to bind strongly to the AR (>testosterone). ND is a potent available anabolic steroid with minimal androgenic side effects. [B][I]Thoughts about dose? I need enough to turn around a serious degree of muscle loss.n I have always been lean and a hard gainer, but have been up to 150 pounds of strong lean muscle in the past in my 50's. I need to regain about 15 pounds of muscle and burn fat off this emaciated body.[/I][/B] I would look into 200 mg ND/week for 12 weeks. Overall sides should be minimal other than increased RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit. The dose will play a big role and even then comes down to the individual. No one can tell you how your body will react to said compound only time will tell. What you really need to hammer down is your nutrition and training protocol. You are a hard gainer so forget the low-carb/keto, carnivore diets. Be far better off following a moderate-high complex carb, moderate protein, moderate fat diet. Regardless of your body type, it is much easier to pack on quality mass when consuming complex carbs. Muscle will always be bigger, fuller, and harder when glycogen stores are topped up! Strength/recovery is also better. Taking in enough quality calories (complex carbs, proteins, fats), meeting your daily protein requirements (1 gram/pound LBM) spread evenly throughout the day combined with a good training plan and you will be good to go. You are on 70 mg T/week. Have no clue where your trough FT sits but hopefully it is where you feel best. If you feel more comfortable starting on 100 mg ND/week do what you feel is best but you will get more bang for your buck going with 150-200mg/week. [B][I]Anyway, I feel safe to start Nandrolone, but I am afraid that when the time comes to reduce dose or stop, I will go trough Hell again. So my main question is: Has anyone had a bad time getting off Nandrolone?[/I][/B] You will maximize your gains/minimal sides overall using 200 mg ND/week for 12 weeks but keep in mind that if you decide to stop it would be highly doubtful that you can maintain those new gains. Some may just decide to go back to using therapeutic doses 50-100 mg/week long-term for the joint/bone pain benefits. [/QUOTE]
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