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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Nandrolone for a cancer patient?
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<blockquote data-quote="Blackhawk" data-source="post: 220216" data-attributes="member: 16042"><p>I have had a very rough go with a blood cancer for the last 2 1/2 years. I've lost weight, and more importantly, muscle mass, as my body composition has shifted due to inactivity and in ability to exercise. I am down to 135 pounds, and my weight is still ever so slowly decreasing. There are other elements to my condition, but simply, I've reachced a point where it seems the tide is turning, and I may be able to start recovery. Efforts so far have not been encouraging. I do the bare minimum that does not create a need for many days recovery, so it is very very little, and for example, my shoulder musculature is so wasted, I can't even lift my arms overhead to the side like a jumping jack type motion. I am starting up with my favorite PT again, but the real problem is that the muscles are not responding to exercise, and I just keep losing mass.</p><p></p><p>I want to try Nandrolone to help rebuild. If Nelson and others can do it for HIV, why is this not common for people like me wasting from cancer.</p><p></p><p>I have researched a fair bit, and basically found no real contraindications. I want to go into it fully informed, so welcome any input if anyone has done this for cancer rehab.</p><p></p><p>[USER=3]@Nelson Vergel[/USER] 's 200mg Testosterone+200mg Nandrolone per week back when he was regaining from HIV is a bit of a scary prospect to me. I previously was put on T cyp 150mg/week which resulted in high HCT/HGB and E2. It was Hell for me to reduce dose repeatedly to reach a reasonable maintainable level.</p><p></p><p>I am currently on just 70mg/week. There are other complications with my TRT dose and it's effectiveness, and seems until my liver comes back to normal, I will be chasing a better balance.</p><p></p><p>The one silver lining to this for right now is that due to receiving 82 units of packed red blood cell transfusions, I have severe iron overload. I was receiving chelation. But now that the anemia is in remission, I am having plebotomies every 2 weeks, and luckily (in a twisted way), there is no risk of low ferritin. It has come down from around 3500 to most recently 1750.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I feel safe to start Nandrolone, but I am afraid that when the time comes to reduce dose or stop, I will go trough Hell again. So my main question is: Has anyone had a bad time getting off Nandrolone?</p><p></p><p>And who else has used Nandrolone for regaining muscle mass from a diseased status?</p><p></p><p>Thoughts about dose? I need enough to turn around a serious degree of muscle loss.n I have always been lean and a hard gainer, but have been up to 150 pounds of strong lean muscle in the past in my 50's. I need to regain about 15 pounds of muscle and burn fat off this emaciated body.</p><p></p><p>I have a consult coming up with Dr Saya this week.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackhawk, post: 220216, member: 16042"] I have had a very rough go with a blood cancer for the last 2 1/2 years. I've lost weight, and more importantly, muscle mass, as my body composition has shifted due to inactivity and in ability to exercise. I am down to 135 pounds, and my weight is still ever so slowly decreasing. There are other elements to my condition, but simply, I've reachced a point where it seems the tide is turning, and I may be able to start recovery. Efforts so far have not been encouraging. I do the bare minimum that does not create a need for many days recovery, so it is very very little, and for example, my shoulder musculature is so wasted, I can't even lift my arms overhead to the side like a jumping jack type motion. I am starting up with my favorite PT again, but the real problem is that the muscles are not responding to exercise, and I just keep losing mass. I want to try Nandrolone to help rebuild. If Nelson and others can do it for HIV, why is this not common for people like me wasting from cancer. I have researched a fair bit, and basically found no real contraindications. I want to go into it fully informed, so welcome any input if anyone has done this for cancer rehab. [USER=3]@Nelson Vergel[/USER] 's 200mg Testosterone+200mg Nandrolone per week back when he was regaining from HIV is a bit of a scary prospect to me. I previously was put on T cyp 150mg/week which resulted in high HCT/HGB and E2. It was Hell for me to reduce dose repeatedly to reach a reasonable maintainable level. I am currently on just 70mg/week. There are other complications with my TRT dose and it's effectiveness, and seems until my liver comes back to normal, I will be chasing a better balance. The one silver lining to this for right now is that due to receiving 82 units of packed red blood cell transfusions, I have severe iron overload. I was receiving chelation. But now that the anemia is in remission, I am having plebotomies every 2 weeks, and luckily (in a twisted way), there is no risk of low ferritin. It has come down from around 3500 to most recently 1750. Anyway, I feel safe to start Nandrolone, but I am afraid that when the time comes to reduce dose or stop, I will go trough Hell again. So my main question is: Has anyone had a bad time getting off Nandrolone? And who else has used Nandrolone for regaining muscle mass from a diseased status? Thoughts about dose? I need enough to turn around a serious degree of muscle loss.n I have always been lean and a hard gainer, but have been up to 150 pounds of strong lean muscle in the past in my 50's. I need to regain about 15 pounds of muscle and burn fat off this emaciated body. I have a consult coming up with Dr Saya this week. [/QUOTE]
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