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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Nandrolone Experiences
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<blockquote data-quote="Cataceous" data-source="post: 170818" data-attributes="member: 38109"><p>Quantifiable proof consists of continuous sampling of plasma levels for some days post-injection. It's clear you don't have this. Do you have any injection cycles in which you took multiple measurements?</p><p></p><p>Why are you so certain that your subjective results are not the product of the different release rates of testosterone by the different esters?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Fair enough. Let's back up on this one. Where are you asserting the differences between esters arise? Are you saying that the whole esters are creating these effects before the testosterone is cleaved?</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, the teapot is analogous to saying there's some mysterious difference in the testosterone molecules that decades of testing have been unable to uncover.</p><p></p><p>But this does lead to an interesting tangent: Doping tests can discern when exogenous testosterone is in use. The primary means is through the ratio of epitestosterone to testosterone. What happens to epitestosterone production in TRT? Is it fully suppressed? Does it have importance that we should know about?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Straw man. I'm looking for the specific claims about how additives and esters might affect testosterone. These must be consistent with the decades of testing that have uncovered no effects except on rate of release.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cataceous, post: 170818, member: 38109"] Quantifiable proof consists of continuous sampling of plasma levels for some days post-injection. It's clear you don't have this. Do you have any injection cycles in which you took multiple measurements? Why are you so certain that your subjective results are not the product of the different release rates of testosterone by the different esters? Fair enough. Let's back up on this one. Where are you asserting the differences between esters arise? Are you saying that the whole esters are creating these effects before the testosterone is cleaved? No, the teapot is analogous to saying there's some mysterious difference in the testosterone molecules that decades of testing have been unable to uncover. But this does lead to an interesting tangent: Doping tests can discern when exogenous testosterone is in use. The primary means is through the ratio of epitestosterone to testosterone. What happens to epitestosterone production in TRT? Is it fully suppressed? Does it have importance that we should know about? Straw man. I'm looking for the specific claims about how additives and esters might affect testosterone. These must be consistent with the decades of testing that have uncovered no effects except on rate of release. [/QUOTE]
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