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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Nandrolone Experiences
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<blockquote data-quote="DS3" data-source="post: 170737" data-attributes="member: 18514"><p>"So you sample at least every hour to ensure you're finding the peak? No? When did you sample? You'd have to be truly extraordinary to have such a low peak testosterone on this dose. It's equivalent to over 300 mg of cypionate per week."</p><p></p><p>Flawed question. No one does this. I have, however, measured TT at various intervals post-shot including, 2 hours, 4 hours, 6 hours, and 10 hours over the course of the last 6 months. The highest measured TT is 1200 ng/dL. If your head is spinning, don't worry, it'll stop.</p><p></p><p>"Considering that the testosterone is bioidentical, I'd say the burden of proof is on those saying something different is happening."</p><p></p><p>Consider that burden of proof satisfied.</p><p></p><p>"Arbitrary definitions. [USER=39869]@Paul M[/USER]'s description is still perfectly reasonable, and he did add the "low dose" qualifier. Don't know why you want to jump on him for that..."</p><p></p><p>By definition, a heuristic would be a generally accepted rule that is not guaranteed to be optimal or perfect. Given the last 5 decades in bodybuilding and performance enhancement, the accepted rule of thumb (heuristic) for getting into a supraphysiological range of anabolism and androgenicity would be 300 mgs for Test (mono) and 200 for Deca (mono) at the lowest end. (Often combined together in these dosages). As I am sure you know, a heuristic, or rule of thumb is hardly arbitrary. However, neither is it perfect.</p><p></p><p>This rule of thumb will leave gray area. For example, if a male is running 180 mgs of Test and 120 of Deca, is that a low dose cycle or high dose HRT? Only a couple of douchebags like us would sit up at 11:09 p.m. on a Monday and argue this gray area.</p><p></p><p>To that, I say good day sir.</p></blockquote><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="DS3, post: 170737, member: 18514"] "So you sample at least every hour to ensure you're finding the peak? No? When did you sample? You'd have to be truly extraordinary to have such a low peak testosterone on this dose. It's equivalent to over 300 mg of cypionate per week." Flawed question. No one does this. I have, however, measured TT at various intervals post-shot including, 2 hours, 4 hours, 6 hours, and 10 hours over the course of the last 6 months. The highest measured TT is 1200 ng/dL. If your head is spinning, don't worry, it'll stop. "Considering that the testosterone is bioidentical, I'd say the burden of proof is on those saying something different is happening." Consider that burden of proof satisfied. "Arbitrary definitions. [USER=39869]@Paul M[/USER]'s description is still perfectly reasonable, and he did add the "low dose" qualifier. Don't know why you want to jump on him for that..." By definition, a heuristic would be a generally accepted rule that is not guaranteed to be optimal or perfect. Given the last 5 decades in bodybuilding and performance enhancement, the accepted rule of thumb (heuristic) for getting into a supraphysiological range of anabolism and androgenicity would be 300 mgs for Test (mono) and 200 for Deca (mono) at the lowest end. (Often combined together in these dosages). As I am sure you know, a heuristic, or rule of thumb is hardly arbitrary. However, neither is it perfect. This rule of thumb will leave gray area. For example, if a male is running 180 mgs of Test and 120 of Deca, is that a low dose cycle or high dose HRT? Only a couple of douchebags like us would sit up at 11:09 p.m. on a Monday and argue this gray area. To that, I say good day sir.[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
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