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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Nandrolone Experiences
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<blockquote data-quote="Gman86" data-source="post: 169540" data-attributes="member: 15043"><p>Deca sensitizes E2 and prolactin at the receptors, making whatever levels of each much more potent at the receptor level. Deca does not make E2 and/ or prolactin elevate in the serum.</p><p></p><p>obviously you’re going to feel better when you lowered your Deca down to 50mg/ week. There’s less Deca to cause issues with your high test dose. When using test as a base, and adding in some Deca, it’s going to be difficult to avoid issues. When using deca, the only sure way to avoid issues, is to use nandrolone as the base, and add in whatever T you need to optimize E2. Nandrolone as the base, will cover your androgen needs, and will still obv sensitize your E2 and prolactin receptors. But the nandrolone will convert extremely little into E2 and prolactin, so no issues there. DHN will cover all the same things that DHT would. You add in just enough test to raise E2 into a healthy range. The low dose of test will bump up prolactin a little, but not enough to cause any issues. So as you can see, it’s extremely easy to manage a protocol using nandrolone as the base, with T as an add-on. When using T as the base, and deca as an add-on, it’s very difficult to manage a protocol that can be run indefinitely</p><p></p><p></p><p>When running your 2:1 ratio of test to deca, your test dose is just way too high. It’s no surprise that you had issues on that protocol.</p><p></p><p>I’m not saying deca is amazing, and everyone should use it. I’m just simply trying to explain that once you understand how deca works, it’s easy to see that it’s not meant to be used as an add on. The pharmacokinetics of it make it ideal to use as a base, and make it an extremely poor compound to use as an add-on to a testosterone base. I’m not saying it can’t work for some. But I can’t think of a worse drug to mix with a high dose testosterone base.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gman86, post: 169540, member: 15043"] Deca sensitizes E2 and prolactin at the receptors, making whatever levels of each much more potent at the receptor level. Deca does not make E2 and/ or prolactin elevate in the serum. obviously you’re going to feel better when you lowered your Deca down to 50mg/ week. There’s less Deca to cause issues with your high test dose. When using test as a base, and adding in some Deca, it’s going to be difficult to avoid issues. When using deca, the only sure way to avoid issues, is to use nandrolone as the base, and add in whatever T you need to optimize E2. Nandrolone as the base, will cover your androgen needs, and will still obv sensitize your E2 and prolactin receptors. But the nandrolone will convert extremely little into E2 and prolactin, so no issues there. DHN will cover all the same things that DHT would. You add in just enough test to raise E2 into a healthy range. The low dose of test will bump up prolactin a little, but not enough to cause any issues. So as you can see, it’s extremely easy to manage a protocol using nandrolone as the base, with T as an add-on. When using T as the base, and deca as an add-on, it’s very difficult to manage a protocol that can be run indefinitely When running your 2:1 ratio of test to deca, your test dose is just way too high. It’s no surprise that you had issues on that protocol. I’m not saying deca is amazing, and everyone should use it. I’m just simply trying to explain that once you understand how deca works, it’s easy to see that it’s not meant to be used as an add on. The pharmacokinetics of it make it ideal to use as a base, and make it an extremely poor compound to use as an add-on to a testosterone base. I’m not saying it can’t work for some. But I can’t think of a worse drug to mix with a high dose testosterone base. [/QUOTE]
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