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<blockquote data-quote="Fireproof" data-source="post: 45167" data-attributes="member: 13038"><p>A few comments, not to critique or state any different views, but because I like training discussions. &#55357;&#56842; </p><p></p><p>1. Like you, I like doing the minimum amount of work to get the job done. No need to kill ourselves, especially as we age. And also - if we've had an extended layoff from the gym - it doesn't take much at all to induce the needed stimuli in our muscles for growth. Almost any quick workout will work as either a newbie, or when returning from a long layoff. This is where I tend to use Full-Body workouts. I was out of the gym for 1.5 years - and was easily able to do a few sets of compound movements for the whole body in 45 minutes and it worked great for about 5-6 weeks until I needed a bit more volume.</p><p></p><p>2. I do agree that many gym-rats train poorly. Time Under Tension is very key to muscle growth. And if you throw weights around, relax them at top or bottom of movements, you are sacrificing that. </p><p></p><p>3. Genetics does make a difference. I've trained with gym rats and bodybuilders off and on for 25 years. It's obvious some people are just gifted genetically and can grow easier than others. But everyone can make progress with proper diet and training. (and certainly optimal testosterone levels with TRT can have a big impact). </p><p></p><p>4. Then there's just work/life balance and one's personal schedule. There may be "text book idea" training plans - but if you can't stick to that due to your schedule (or due to other physical limitations) - then don't do it. Go for the plan that appears to get decent results for you, and is one that you enjoy and will stick with. We're all different. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Happy lifting!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fireproof, post: 45167, member: 13038"] A few comments, not to critique or state any different views, but because I like training discussions. �� 1. Like you, I like doing the minimum amount of work to get the job done. No need to kill ourselves, especially as we age. And also - if we've had an extended layoff from the gym - it doesn't take much at all to induce the needed stimuli in our muscles for growth. Almost any quick workout will work as either a newbie, or when returning from a long layoff. This is where I tend to use Full-Body workouts. I was out of the gym for 1.5 years - and was easily able to do a few sets of compound movements for the whole body in 45 minutes and it worked great for about 5-6 weeks until I needed a bit more volume. 2. I do agree that many gym-rats train poorly. Time Under Tension is very key to muscle growth. And if you throw weights around, relax them at top or bottom of movements, you are sacrificing that. 3. Genetics does make a difference. I've trained with gym rats and bodybuilders off and on for 25 years. It's obvious some people are just gifted genetically and can grow easier than others. But everyone can make progress with proper diet and training. (and certainly optimal testosterone levels with TRT can have a big impact). 4. Then there's just work/life balance and one's personal schedule. There may be "text book idea" training plans - but if you can't stick to that due to your schedule (or due to other physical limitations) - then don't do it. Go for the plan that appears to get decent results for you, and is one that you enjoy and will stick with. We're all different. :) Happy lifting! [/QUOTE]
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