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My TRT Odyssey: Lab Results and More
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<blockquote data-quote="FunkOdyssey" data-source="post: 276156" data-attributes="member: 44064"><p>Time for an update. I ran some 8 week labs after increasing from 40 to 50 mg EOD SC (140 to 175 mg weekly) and the results are puzzling:</p><table class='post-table ' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p><strong>Test</strong></p></td><td ><table class='post-table ' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p><strong>12/19/2023</strong></p></td></tr></table></p></td><td ><table class='post-table ' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p><strong>2/15/2024</strong></p></td></tr></table></p></td><td ><table class='post-table ' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p><strong>Normal Range</strong></p></td></tr></table></p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Total Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>893 ng/dL</p></td><td ><p>1101 ng/dL</p></td><td ><p>250 - 1100 ng/dL</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Free T (EqD)</p></td><td ><p>168.6 pg/mL</p></td><td ><p>166.3 pg/mL</p></td><td ><p>35 - 155 pg/mL</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Free T (calc)</p></td><td ><p>17.3 ng/dL</p></td><td ><p>27 ng/dL</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>SHBG</p></td><td ><p>44 nmol/L</p></td><td ><p>35 nmol/L</p></td><td ><p>10 - 50 nmol/L</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Estradiol</p></td><td ><p>43 pg/mL</p></td><td ><p>83 pg/mL</p></td><td ><p><= 29 pg/mL</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>DHT</p></td><td ><p>66 ng/dL</p></td><td ><p>65 ng/dL</p></td><td ><p>12 - 65 ng/dL</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Hematocrit</p></td><td ><p>41.8%</p></td><td ><p>47.3%</p></td><td ><p>38.5 - 50%</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>Ferritin</p></td><td ><p>48 ng/mL</p></td><td ><p>28 ng/mL</p></td><td ><p>38 - 380 ng/mL</p></td></tr></table>If you've noticed a shift in my attitude towards SC injections, this is why. I increased my dose by 25%, my free T and DHT stayed almost exactly the same, and my E2 doubled. WTF?</p><p></p><p>In the couple months between these tests I started cranking out the RBCs and Hemoglobin; this is reflected in my dropping ferritin level. I expect this should level out and maybe rise a little once my HCT plateaus. I recently increased my red meat consumption to 2 1/2 lbs per day so there's no doubt my iron intake is sufficient.</p><p></p><p>So how does 83 pg/mL E2 feel? Not too bad. Here's my 8 week assessment:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mood is pretty good</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Energy is pretty good</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Frequent nocturnal erections</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sometimes having a little morning wood, doesn't last long though</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Libido is not very good</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cognition is good</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sleep seems unaffected by testosterone and is pretty good</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">No anxiety</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hair is good, hair loss in shower is similar to baseline (ketoconazole shampoo may be helping a bit)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Have some annoying acne on my chest and upper back that I am partially controlling with Panoxyl. Face is mostly ok, but seems somewhat more acne prone than usual also, particularly when eating poorly.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I have noticeable water retention where it is difficult to put on my rings and my socks are leaving major indents.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Heart rate may be slightly elevated compared to before TRT (3-5 bpm)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Blood pressure is still good, last check was 114/70 I think.</li> </ul><p></p><p>I know I said I would give it a full 12 weeks but these labs are ridiculous. I switched to IM shots in the delts already, keeping dosage and frequency the same. Stay tuned for the next set of labs to find out if IM delivers superior results.</p><p></p><p>On the lifting front, I switched from the 5x5 scheme to 5 x 8-12 to go easier on my joints and focus more on hypertrophy. I made some adjustments that have solved all my lower back issues, including squatting only once per week instead of twice, using a more upright posture for squats, and replacing barbell deadlift with trap bar deadlift. However, my right knee is bothering me now so I need to figure that out. It might have coincided with the more upright squatting position.</p><p></p><p>I have also gained some more weight. I am now up from 190 lb to 213 lbs at 6'6". I think I'm about 17% body fat. I have mostly gained a mix of water and muscle weight and maybe slight bit of fat, not sure. Friends and family are noticing now and giving compliments on the more muscular physique.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FunkOdyssey, post: 276156, member: 44064"] Time for an update. I ran some 8 week labs after increasing from 40 to 50 mg EOD SC (140 to 175 mg weekly) and the results are puzzling: [TABLE][TR][TD] [B]Test[/B] [/TD] [TD] [TABLE][TR][TD] [B]12/19/2023[/B] [/TD][/TR][/TABLE] [/TD] [TD] [TABLE][TR][TD] [B]2/15/2024[/B] [/TD][/TR][/TABLE] [/TD] [TD] [TABLE][TR][TD] [B]Normal Range[/B] [/TD][/TR][/TABLE] [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Total Testosterone [/TD] [TD] 893 ng/dL [/TD] [TD] 1101 ng/dL [/TD] [TD] 250 - 1100 ng/dL [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Free T (EqD) [/TD] [TD] 168.6 pg/mL [/TD] [TD] 166.3 pg/mL [/TD] [TD] 35 - 155 pg/mL [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Free T (calc) [/TD] [TD] 17.3 ng/dL [/TD] [TD] 27 ng/dL [/TD] [TD] [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] SHBG [/TD] [TD] 44 nmol/L [/TD] [TD] 35 nmol/L [/TD] [TD] 10 - 50 nmol/L [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Estradiol [/TD] [TD] 43 pg/mL [/TD] [TD] 83 pg/mL [/TD] [TD] <= 29 pg/mL [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] DHT [/TD] [TD] 66 ng/dL [/TD] [TD] 65 ng/dL [/TD] [TD] 12 - 65 ng/dL [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Hematocrit [/TD] [TD] 41.8% [/TD] [TD] 47.3% [/TD] [TD] 38.5 - 50% [/TD][/TR] [TR][TD] Ferritin [/TD] [TD] 48 ng/mL [/TD] [TD] 28 ng/mL [/TD] [TD] 38 - 380 ng/mL [/TD][/TR][/TABLE] If you've noticed a shift in my attitude towards SC injections, this is why. I increased my dose by 25%, my free T and DHT stayed almost exactly the same, and my E2 doubled. WTF? In the couple months between these tests I started cranking out the RBCs and Hemoglobin; this is reflected in my dropping ferritin level. I expect this should level out and maybe rise a little once my HCT plateaus. I recently increased my red meat consumption to 2 1/2 lbs per day so there's no doubt my iron intake is sufficient. So how does 83 pg/mL E2 feel? Not too bad. Here's my 8 week assessment: [LIST] [*]Mood is pretty good [*]Energy is pretty good [*]Frequent nocturnal erections [*]Sometimes having a little morning wood, doesn't last long though [*]Libido is not very good [*]Cognition is good [*]Sleep seems unaffected by testosterone and is pretty good [*]No anxiety [*]Hair is good, hair loss in shower is similar to baseline (ketoconazole shampoo may be helping a bit) [*]Have some annoying acne on my chest and upper back that I am partially controlling with Panoxyl. Face is mostly ok, but seems somewhat more acne prone than usual also, particularly when eating poorly. [*]I have noticeable water retention where it is difficult to put on my rings and my socks are leaving major indents. [*]Heart rate may be slightly elevated compared to before TRT (3-5 bpm) [*]Blood pressure is still good, last check was 114/70 I think. [/LIST] I know I said I would give it a full 12 weeks but these labs are ridiculous. I switched to IM shots in the delts already, keeping dosage and frequency the same. Stay tuned for the next set of labs to find out if IM delivers superior results. On the lifting front, I switched from the 5x5 scheme to 5 x 8-12 to go easier on my joints and focus more on hypertrophy. I made some adjustments that have solved all my lower back issues, including squatting only once per week instead of twice, using a more upright posture for squats, and replacing barbell deadlift with trap bar deadlift. However, my right knee is bothering me now so I need to figure that out. It might have coincided with the more upright squatting position. I have also gained some more weight. I am now up from 190 lb to 213 lbs at 6'6". I think I'm about 17% body fat. I have mostly gained a mix of water and muscle weight and maybe slight bit of fat, not sure. Friends and family are noticing now and giving compliments on the more muscular physique. [/QUOTE]
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