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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
My start on NDT
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<blockquote data-quote="Vettester Chris" data-source="post: 114985" data-attributes="member: 696"><p>Wrench, I suspect you're pooling. One (1) grain went from 12.5% to 91.6% of reference range. As my post stated, "don't be fooled by the Low RT3". That marker is a reflection of increased conversion of T4 to RT3, but as noted your T4 is sub-reference, there's just not enough T4 to convert downstream.</p><p></p><p>Again, based on your most recent labs, <strong>iron serum is definitely sub-par at</strong> <strong>67</strong>, and<strong> ferritin</strong> is "close" at <strong>85</strong>, but needing to increase some. I also think you need to have your cortisol tested, I thought something was mentioned on that in your other thread, I could be wrong?</p><p></p><p>Talk it over with Dr. Saya, but just note it in the back pocket that IF you start adding Levo T4, and/or ramping up NDT, I suspect that T4 will start to climb and then start converting excessively to RT3. Again, 1 grain, you're at 91.6% of reference range on FT3. My theory, you were starting to feel better because some T3 was starting to reach the cells. Unfortunately, it's bottle-necked because of insufficient transport ability to the cells due to iron & ferritin, then it goes backwards like you said ... Like a traffic jam on the 405, and it's down to 1 lane .. Cars just start piling up. The RT3 marker isn't in play because of T4, or the lack thereof.</p><p></p><p>To conclude, there's two (2) variables here with your situation ... </p><p>1) You have Hashis/Autoimmune TPO disorder, so that is factored with a treatment program. If everything is GREEN light for treatment, you need adequate dosage to combat the TPO attacks. </p><p>2) You have LOW Iron serum, and low (getting closer) ferritin. Hashis or no hashis, thyroid medication will be counterproductive if these levels are not adequate. That's not my rule or mantra, that's science and it's a fact. If I'm wrong, I would have expected your FT3 to be maybe 30% or 40% of reference with body just soaking up all the FT3 it can get. It's at 91.6% (lol, I know I sound like a broken record), which is telling me that your T3 is stuck on the freeway with only a little bit making it down the road.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vettester Chris, post: 114985, member: 696"] Wrench, I suspect you're pooling. One (1) grain went from 12.5% to 91.6% of reference range. As my post stated, "don't be fooled by the Low RT3". That marker is a reflection of increased conversion of T4 to RT3, but as noted your T4 is sub-reference, there's just not enough T4 to convert downstream. Again, based on your most recent labs, [B]iron serum is definitely sub-par at[/B] [B]67[/B], and[B] ferritin[/B] is "close" at [B]85[/B], but needing to increase some. I also think you need to have your cortisol tested, I thought something was mentioned on that in your other thread, I could be wrong? Talk it over with Dr. Saya, but just note it in the back pocket that IF you start adding Levo T4, and/or ramping up NDT, I suspect that T4 will start to climb and then start converting excessively to RT3. Again, 1 grain, you're at 91.6% of reference range on FT3. My theory, you were starting to feel better because some T3 was starting to reach the cells. Unfortunately, it's bottle-necked because of insufficient transport ability to the cells due to iron & ferritin, then it goes backwards like you said ... Like a traffic jam on the 405, and it's down to 1 lane .. Cars just start piling up. The RT3 marker isn't in play because of T4, or the lack thereof. To conclude, there's two (2) variables here with your situation ... 1) You have Hashis/Autoimmune TPO disorder, so that is factored with a treatment program. If everything is GREEN light for treatment, you need adequate dosage to combat the TPO attacks. 2) You have LOW Iron serum, and low (getting closer) ferritin. Hashis or no hashis, thyroid medication will be counterproductive if these levels are not adequate. That's not my rule or mantra, that's science and it's a fact. If I'm wrong, I would have expected your FT3 to be maybe 30% or 40% of reference with body just soaking up all the FT3 it can get. It's at 91.6% (lol, I know I sound like a broken record), which is telling me that your T3 is stuck on the freeway with only a little bit making it down the road. [/QUOTE]
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My start on NDT
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