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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Blood Test Discussion
my bloods , libido issues
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 82184" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Your labs were done at LifeLabs as I can tell by the reference ranges on your labs.? Your TSH is low and free t4 borderline low, total t is roughly mid/normal 17.4 nmol/L (497.5 nmol/L) as 18.6 nmol/L would be mid range of the reference range 8.4-28.8 nmol/L. Your free t is also roughly mid/normal 465 pmol/L as 416 nmol/L would be mid range of the reference range 196-636 pmol/L. Your total could definitely be increased to bring up your free but as far as timing of labs if you are injecting 60mg Sunday night at 12am and your next injection is Wednesday night at 12am than your labs were basically taken 62 hrs after your last shot instead of roughly 72 hrs before your next shot due to having labs on Wednesday 2pm and most labs close by 5pm so it would not be possible to get labs just before your next shot on Wednesday at 12am and even than if you were from Wednesday night at 12am-Sunday night at 12am is 96 hrs between injections which would give you a better idea of your trough but labs are not open on Sundays and if they were would close at 5pm and it would be better to pull bloods just before your shot on Sunday night at 12am. Most that do twice weekly injections inject every 3.5 days as I am on trt and inject 75mg Tuesday morning at 6am and than 84 hrs later on Friday evening at 6pm and when I go for lab work have bloods pulled Friday evening close to 5pm just before my next shot as it is more consistent that way to get a true trough reading. Your injection times of 12am make it more difficult and you should inject every 3.5 days(84 hrs) as from your Sunday night-Wednesday night shot is 72hrs and from Wednesday night-Sunday night is 96hrs. Regarding your estradiol it is the standard assay which is only available in Canada a tends to overestimated let alone the reference range is <162 pmol/L as oppose to having a low/high point to reference and your e2 of 124 may not really be that high. As VC stated you need to have the sensitive assay done in the US to get a better picture of where your e2 sits. Also e2 can be tricky as my protocol of 75mg every 3.5 days puts my total HIGH at 41.5 nmol/L (roughly 1200 ng/dL) Dynacare reference range of 7.6-31.4 nmol/L and my free t HIGH at 1136 pmol/L (almost double) reference range 196-636 pmol/L and my what is really shocking my estradiol standard assay HIGH at a whopping 242 pmol/L reference range of <159 and I have absolutely no high e2 symptoms as my libido is strong/tons energy/stellar mood/strong erections/strength/muscle gains/greatly improved recovery. Luckily I feel great overall so only way to know where my e2 really sits is to travel to the US and have the sensitive assay done. Maybe because my total is so high my T/E ratio is good as I have never used an A.I. or hcg!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 82184, member: 13851"] Your labs were done at LifeLabs as I can tell by the reference ranges on your labs.? Your TSH is low and free t4 borderline low, total t is roughly mid/normal 17.4 nmol/L (497.5 nmol/L) as 18.6 nmol/L would be mid range of the reference range 8.4-28.8 nmol/L. Your free t is also roughly mid/normal 465 pmol/L as 416 nmol/L would be mid range of the reference range 196-636 pmol/L. Your total could definitely be increased to bring up your free but as far as timing of labs if you are injecting 60mg Sunday night at 12am and your next injection is Wednesday night at 12am than your labs were basically taken 62 hrs after your last shot instead of roughly 72 hrs before your next shot due to having labs on Wednesday 2pm and most labs close by 5pm so it would not be possible to get labs just before your next shot on Wednesday at 12am and even than if you were from Wednesday night at 12am-Sunday night at 12am is 96 hrs between injections which would give you a better idea of your trough but labs are not open on Sundays and if they were would close at 5pm and it would be better to pull bloods just before your shot on Sunday night at 12am. Most that do twice weekly injections inject every 3.5 days as I am on trt and inject 75mg Tuesday morning at 6am and than 84 hrs later on Friday evening at 6pm and when I go for lab work have bloods pulled Friday evening close to 5pm just before my next shot as it is more consistent that way to get a true trough reading. Your injection times of 12am make it more difficult and you should inject every 3.5 days(84 hrs) as from your Sunday night-Wednesday night shot is 72hrs and from Wednesday night-Sunday night is 96hrs. Regarding your estradiol it is the standard assay which is only available in Canada a tends to overestimated let alone the reference range is <162 pmol/L as oppose to having a low/high point to reference and your e2 of 124 may not really be that high. As VC stated you need to have the sensitive assay done in the US to get a better picture of where your e2 sits. Also e2 can be tricky as my protocol of 75mg every 3.5 days puts my total HIGH at 41.5 nmol/L (roughly 1200 ng/dL) Dynacare reference range of 7.6-31.4 nmol/L and my free t HIGH at 1136 pmol/L (almost double) reference range 196-636 pmol/L and my what is really shocking my estradiol standard assay HIGH at a whopping 242 pmol/L reference range of <159 and I have absolutely no high e2 symptoms as my libido is strong/tons energy/stellar mood/strong erections/strength/muscle gains/greatly improved recovery. Luckily I feel great overall so only way to know where my e2 really sits is to travel to the US and have the sensitive assay done. Maybe because my total is so high my T/E ratio is good as I have never used an A.I. or hcg! [/QUOTE]
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