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My 6 weeks TRT Labs: advise welcome
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<blockquote data-quote="aneuman" data-source="post: 259939" data-attributes="member: 43264"><p>First off [USER=38109]@Cataceous[/USER], thanks for taking the time to read and respond. I really appreciate it, because your one of the people I trust on this forum, given that you have always offered reasonable advise and can backup your claims.</p><p></p><p>Agree. Walking back with increments between 0.8%- 1% a year since my last natty results, in my 30s I should have been around 600 - 650 ng/dL given that at 57 I was at 492ng/dL, yet at that level I was not feeling well already and had all the symptoms. So to your point, I do not know at what levels I felt good.</p><p></p><p>I know you do and I appreciate that too. Having been to the mountain top for 2-3 weeks and then fall back hard to the bottom is very frustrating to say the least.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's the hypothesis I'm operating under as well, my average total T for the past two years has been 767ng/dL, but there have been a lot of protocol changes, first hCG compounding was banned, then EC disappeared, then appeared again, poor guidance from doctors, etc, so a lot of up-and-downs. So I'm assuming that there was not time for stabilization and normalization like you say. I'm also weary of the unknown side effects of HCG and EC, particularly the latter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm equally concerned about symptom resolution as I am with elevated HCT and E2. I do not want to solve one thing at the expense of the other. There are certain risks I'm willing to take (as [USER=38590]@tareload[/USER] always says, pay to play) but I'm not willing to put it all down just for the fun of 20Kg/dL of free T.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm tempted to do that, but I'm holding until the 3 month mark at least. Don't want to touch too many variables. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I did purchase the progesterone cream you mentioned in anchor thread (I assume, the coconut oil base) and did use it twice with some weird results: at about 3 am, I was hot as hell (hot as in temperature) by temp was 98.6 (97.5 before going to bed), but after that passed (30-45 min), I had a very solid sleep and woke up refreshed. Happened twice, haven't done it again. I have never measured it though.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah! There's the rub.</p><p></p><p>Tolerance: moderate. I can do things that most people I know won't (TRT is one of them). I'm ver concerned about the sources and purity of the substance. I've seen a lot.</p><p></p><p>Patience: almost zero, and that's my biggest liability. Since I was a child, I always told my mom that I wanted things "this very minute, this very second" (I was not aware of milliseconds at age 6)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Tried Oxytocin once (Empower's) and did not notice anything al all. vey expensive. Needs refrigeration.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Me too. I've been very close to "Buy now" but I'm trying to cultivate patience. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I know brother. I do not want to overcomplicate my life. At some point, I guess, it's not worth it.</p><p></p><p>Just a final question if I can abuse your friendliness:</p><p></p><p>You saw the labs above. What would you hypothetically do:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep things the same (currently 2 x 50 mg per week)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lower to 2 x 40 mg /week</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">switch to Sub-Q again and, <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep things the same (currently 2 x 50 mg per week)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lower to 2 x 40 mg /week</li> </ul></li> </ul><p>As always, I appreciate your insight and time spent reading and replying. Very valuable advise.</p><p>Thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aneuman, post: 259939, member: 43264"] First off [USER=38109]@Cataceous[/USER], thanks for taking the time to read and respond. I really appreciate it, because your one of the people I trust on this forum, given that you have always offered reasonable advise and can backup your claims. Agree. Walking back with increments between 0.8%- 1% a year since my last natty results, in my 30s I should have been around 600 - 650 ng/dL given that at 57 I was at 492ng/dL, yet at that level I was not feeling well already and had all the symptoms. So to your point, I do not know at what levels I felt good. I know you do and I appreciate that too. Having been to the mountain top for 2-3 weeks and then fall back hard to the bottom is very frustrating to say the least. That's the hypothesis I'm operating under as well, my average total T for the past two years has been 767ng/dL, but there have been a lot of protocol changes, first hCG compounding was banned, then EC disappeared, then appeared again, poor guidance from doctors, etc, so a lot of up-and-downs. So I'm assuming that there was not time for stabilization and normalization like you say. I'm also weary of the unknown side effects of HCG and EC, particularly the latter. I'm equally concerned about symptom resolution as I am with elevated HCT and E2. I do not want to solve one thing at the expense of the other. There are certain risks I'm willing to take (as [USER=38590]@tareload[/USER] always says, pay to play) but I'm not willing to put it all down just for the fun of 20Kg/dL of free T. I'm tempted to do that, but I'm holding until the 3 month mark at least. Don't want to touch too many variables. I did purchase the progesterone cream you mentioned in anchor thread (I assume, the coconut oil base) and did use it twice with some weird results: at about 3 am, I was hot as hell (hot as in temperature) by temp was 98.6 (97.5 before going to bed), but after that passed (30-45 min), I had a very solid sleep and woke up refreshed. Happened twice, haven't done it again. I have never measured it though. Ah! There's the rub. Tolerance: moderate. I can do things that most people I know won't (TRT is one of them). I'm ver concerned about the sources and purity of the substance. I've seen a lot. Patience: almost zero, and that's my biggest liability. Since I was a child, I always told my mom that I wanted things "this very minute, this very second" (I was not aware of milliseconds at age 6) Tried Oxytocin once (Empower's) and did not notice anything al all. vey expensive. Needs refrigeration. Me too. I've been very close to "Buy now" but I'm trying to cultivate patience. I know brother. I do not want to overcomplicate my life. At some point, I guess, it's not worth it. Just a final question if I can abuse your friendliness: You saw the labs above. What would you hypothetically do: [LIST] [*]Keep things the same (currently 2 x 50 mg per week) [*]Lower to 2 x 40 mg /week [*]switch to Sub-Q again and, [LIST] [*]Keep things the same (currently 2 x 50 mg per week) [*]Lower to 2 x 40 mg /week [/LIST] [/LIST] As always, I appreciate your insight and time spent reading and replying. Very valuable advise. Thanks. [/QUOTE]
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