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My 6 weeks TRT Labs: advise welcome
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<blockquote data-quote="Cataceous" data-source="post: 259929" data-attributes="member: 38109"><p>Because most of us have no idea what our healthy, youthful testosterone levels were — as you have also noted — I favor targeting average levels, at least initially. For Vermeulen FT this is around 15 ng/dL, based on data from healthy young men two or three decades ago. This preempts some complaints about the normalization of falling levels. So yes, I do think it's preferable to start lower and give it at least a couple months before experimenting with higher doses.</p><p></p><p>I appreciate your frustration in having seen in your honeymoon period that the equipment is ok, but you don't know how to maintain anything close to that. The first step of course is to normalize testosterone and give it plenty of time to work. You've been at this a while now, but arguably hCG and enclomiphene don't count due to their problematic aspects. Even so, expect limited effects from modest variations in your TRT protocol. If nothing changes then at some point I would add back a little hCG to the TRT, maybe only 250 IU a couple times a week. I'd also measure progesterone and supplement if low. Beyond this it's a question of your tolerance and patience for further experimentation. There are various supplements to enhance neurotransmitters. I like selegiline in particular due to its other possible benefits. Being about your age I appreciate anything that can push back against the clock a little. You can also look into restoring some of the other hormones suppressed by TRT, such as GnRH and kisspeptin. Oxytocin is something else to try. I've wondered about microdoing PT-141, but haven't tried this yet. There's always the danger of ending up like me, reliant on a very complex protocol. However, I contrast how I feel now with the problems I had before to remind myself that it's worth it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cataceous, post: 259929, member: 38109"] Because most of us have no idea what our healthy, youthful testosterone levels were — as you have also noted — I favor targeting average levels, at least initially. For Vermeulen FT this is around 15 ng/dL, based on data from healthy young men two or three decades ago. This preempts some complaints about the normalization of falling levels. So yes, I do think it's preferable to start lower and give it at least a couple months before experimenting with higher doses. I appreciate your frustration in having seen in your honeymoon period that the equipment is ok, but you don't know how to maintain anything close to that. The first step of course is to normalize testosterone and give it plenty of time to work. You've been at this a while now, but arguably hCG and enclomiphene don't count due to their problematic aspects. Even so, expect limited effects from modest variations in your TRT protocol. If nothing changes then at some point I would add back a little hCG to the TRT, maybe only 250 IU a couple times a week. I'd also measure progesterone and supplement if low. Beyond this it's a question of your tolerance and patience for further experimentation. There are various supplements to enhance neurotransmitters. I like selegiline in particular due to its other possible benefits. Being about your age I appreciate anything that can push back against the clock a little. You can also look into restoring some of the other hormones suppressed by TRT, such as GnRH and kisspeptin. Oxytocin is something else to try. I've wondered about microdoing PT-141, but haven't tried this yet. There's always the danger of ending up like me, reliant on a very complex protocol. However, I contrast how I feel now with the problems I had before to remind myself that it's worth it. [/QUOTE]
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