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<blockquote data-quote="aneuman" data-source="post: 259927" data-attributes="member: 43264"><p>Thank you Vince! I really appreciate your two cents! </p><p></p><p></p><p>That's what I was thinking. The only problem is that I tend to overthink everything, and I'm afraid of dropping the dose, then changing frequency, then see FreeT too low, then too high, HCT up, etc.</p><p></p><p>What I'm really, really interested is in the timeframe. I say I have not seen improvements other than anxiety, but maybe they are happening, under the surface, in a way that's not really noticeable and it will take a bit longer. If I "knew" that, I could maintain the discipline of dosage/schedule.</p><p></p><p>so the real questions is: </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">does everybody see brutal changes quickly, such as becoming superman 2 hours after injection with permanent rock hard erection and bloody eyes and achieve 7% body fat and Arnold-like musculature in a week?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Or are there any poor humans like me in which effects come very slowly and it takes longer than 6 weeks or ever 12 weeks to see minor improvements, but the journey is still worth it?</li> </ul><p>Based on this understandably failure-biased forum, I see people changing protocols almost very two weeks, which leads me to believe that there're certain expectations that "change" or "improvement" should occur quickly. And according to <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3188848/#:~:text=It%20can%20be%20concluded%20that,after%206%20or%2012%20months." target="_blank">this</a>, some changes may be expected quickly.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have labs again in 6 weeks (these are the "official" doctor ordered, these interim ones were "mine" on <a href="https://www.discountedlabs.com" target="_blank">DiscountedLabs</a>). I'd like to make adjustments, if any, and keep them for at least the 5 weeks I have remaining. I see a few options at the moment and would like your take (and others) on it.</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Go back to M-W-F schedule at a lower dosage (let's say 3 x 25mg, i.e. 75 mg/week). Logic: keeping a more frequent schedule would keep HCT in range and lower E2, while a lower dosage could help with the anxiety</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Continue on M-F at a lower dosage (e.g. 2 x 40mg, i.e 80 mg/week) Logic: more distant shots would allow lower throughs, which some have indicated could be beneficial, while a lower dosage would help with anxiety.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Go back to Sub-Q. I was originally 3 weeks SQ, same dosage/schedule. I didn't see any anxiety, but was feeling a very minor pain at the site of injection, (nothing major and totally tolerable, but decided to switch to shallow IM) in this case I have the same two options:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Go back to M-W-F schedule at a lower dosage (let's say 3 x 25mg, i.e. 75 mg/week). Logic: keeping a more frequent schedule would keep HCT in range and lower E2, while a lower dosage could help with the anxiety</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Continue on M-F at a lower dosage (e.g. 2 x 40mg, i.e 80 mg/week) Logic: more distant shots would allow lower throughs, which some have indicated could be beneficial, while a lower dosage would help with anxiety.</li> </ol></li> </ol><p>Unfortunately I have a very analytical mind that takes everything and slices and dices every detail, consequences, etc. Sometimes I think ignorance is bliss. 30 years ago I would have gone to the doctor, he would have prescribed 200mg every two weeks and I'd probably be happy. Unfortunately, those days are gone. I'm woke!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I was on M-W-F schedule and had the labs on Monday 8:30 am after completing 6 weeks before the injection, so yes, true trough.</p><p></p><p>Thanks a lot for taking the time a patience to read my long post. I have an uncontrollable urge to explain everything as clearly as possible and I know not everyone welcomes that, especially in this day and age.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aneuman, post: 259927, member: 43264"] Thank you Vince! I really appreciate your two cents! That's what I was thinking. The only problem is that I tend to overthink everything, and I'm afraid of dropping the dose, then changing frequency, then see FreeT too low, then too high, HCT up, etc. What I'm really, really interested is in the timeframe. I say I have not seen improvements other than anxiety, but maybe they are happening, under the surface, in a way that's not really noticeable and it will take a bit longer. If I "knew" that, I could maintain the discipline of dosage/schedule. so the real questions is: [LIST] [*]does everybody see brutal changes quickly, such as becoming superman 2 hours after injection with permanent rock hard erection and bloody eyes and achieve 7% body fat and Arnold-like musculature in a week? [*]Or are there any poor humans like me in which effects come very slowly and it takes longer than 6 weeks or ever 12 weeks to see minor improvements, but the journey is still worth it? [/LIST] Based on this understandably failure-biased forum, I see people changing protocols almost very two weeks, which leads me to believe that there're certain expectations that "change" or "improvement" should occur quickly. And according to [URL='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3188848/#:~:text=It%20can%20be%20concluded%20that,after%206%20or%2012%20months.']this[/URL], some changes may be expected quickly. I have labs again in 6 weeks (these are the "official" doctor ordered, these interim ones were "mine" on [URL='https://www.discountedlabs.com']DiscountedLabs[/URL]). I'd like to make adjustments, if any, and keep them for at least the 5 weeks I have remaining. I see a few options at the moment and would like your take (and others) on it. [LIST=1] [*]Go back to M-W-F schedule at a lower dosage (let's say 3 x 25mg, i.e. 75 mg/week). Logic: keeping a more frequent schedule would keep HCT in range and lower E2, while a lower dosage could help with the anxiety [*]Continue on M-F at a lower dosage (e.g. 2 x 40mg, i.e 80 mg/week) Logic: more distant shots would allow lower throughs, which some have indicated could be beneficial, while a lower dosage would help with anxiety. [*]Go back to Sub-Q. I was originally 3 weeks SQ, same dosage/schedule. I didn't see any anxiety, but was feeling a very minor pain at the site of injection, (nothing major and totally tolerable, but decided to switch to shallow IM) in this case I have the same two options: [LIST=1] [*]Go back to M-W-F schedule at a lower dosage (let's say 3 x 25mg, i.e. 75 mg/week). Logic: keeping a more frequent schedule would keep HCT in range and lower E2, while a lower dosage could help with the anxiety [*]Continue on M-F at a lower dosage (e.g. 2 x 40mg, i.e 80 mg/week) Logic: more distant shots would allow lower throughs, which some have indicated could be beneficial, while a lower dosage would help with anxiety. [/LIST] [/LIST] Unfortunately I have a very analytical mind that takes everything and slices and dices every detail, consequences, etc. Sometimes I think ignorance is bliss. 30 years ago I would have gone to the doctor, he would have prescribed 200mg every two weeks and I'd probably be happy. Unfortunately, those days are gone. I'm woke! Yes, I was on M-W-F schedule and had the labs on Monday 8:30 am after completing 6 weeks before the injection, so yes, true trough. Thanks a lot for taking the time a patience to read my long post. I have an uncontrollable urge to explain everything as clearly as possible and I know not everyone welcomes that, especially in this day and age. [/QUOTE]
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