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Most common problem with TRT
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<blockquote data-quote="Gman86" data-source="post: 115067" data-attributes="member: 15043"><p>If I had to guess, I would say your free testosterone isn't high enough, or your E2 is out of range. When it comes to libido, I think about guys on steroids that talk about a raging libido most of the time. And if they lose their libido, they lower E2 and that usually does the trick. Yes, we're obv not doing steroid like dosages, but it just makes me wonder, why do most of them report an insane libido, and guys on TRT usually report a moderate-high libido when dialed in. I'm assuming it's due to the increase in free T with steroid users compared to guys on TRT. What else would cause it? Yes different compounds can effect libido differently, but I'm basing this off of anecdotal experiences I've read when guys are on a large dose of testosterone each week and no other orals or injectables. And ya we don't want their free T levels and risk our health, but I would assume if libido isn't where you want it, bumping up free T would get you closer to the libido you're looking for. </p><p></p><p>When it comes to E2, you're gonna get varying views. There's going to be some that say the E2 sweetspot is a myth, and to not focus so much on the numbers, and they're going to say that your body will regulate E2 on it's own. So if E2 is too high, you just need to lower your dose and your E2 will fall into place. But there are some guys that have low testosterone with normal E2 readings before TRT, like me. So obviously if you double testosterone levels, E2 is going to probably double and therefore be out of range. So I don't necessarily agree with that set of views. Then there are other guys who have reported that if their E2 is 10 points higher or lower than their sweetspot, it makes a huge difference in libido and well being. Idk who's right or wrong, but I'll tell you what. Those men that report seeing a huge difference when their E2 is in that "sweetspot", I guarantee aren't liars. It just doesn't make sense for any of us to lie or exaggerate our experiences. So when a doctor or forum member disregards someone's anecdotal experience because it doesn't match up with their thoughts on the subject, or what they have personally experienced, it makes me so mad. For some people, I 100% believe they have a sweetspot where they feel amazing. Do we all have one? I have no idea. Everyone is so different, it's hard to say. Only way to find out though is through trial and error, to see if dialing in E2 makes a difference. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. But it absolutely does for some people, that I know for sure. </p><p></p><p>Long story short, I personally would get your E2 within a normal range if it isn't already. And if that doesn't help libido, I would increase free T and see if that helps. If increasing free T makes E2 go up too much, I would try an AI and see if having a higher free T while keeping E2 within range helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gman86, post: 115067, member: 15043"] If I had to guess, I would say your free testosterone isn't high enough, or your E2 is out of range. When it comes to libido, I think about guys on steroids that talk about a raging libido most of the time. And if they lose their libido, they lower E2 and that usually does the trick. Yes, we're obv not doing steroid like dosages, but it just makes me wonder, why do most of them report an insane libido, and guys on TRT usually report a moderate-high libido when dialed in. I'm assuming it's due to the increase in free T with steroid users compared to guys on TRT. What else would cause it? Yes different compounds can effect libido differently, but I'm basing this off of anecdotal experiences I've read when guys are on a large dose of testosterone each week and no other orals or injectables. And ya we don't want their free T levels and risk our health, but I would assume if libido isn't where you want it, bumping up free T would get you closer to the libido you're looking for. When it comes to E2, you're gonna get varying views. There's going to be some that say the E2 sweetspot is a myth, and to not focus so much on the numbers, and they're going to say that your body will regulate E2 on it's own. So if E2 is too high, you just need to lower your dose and your E2 will fall into place. But there are some guys that have low testosterone with normal E2 readings before TRT, like me. So obviously if you double testosterone levels, E2 is going to probably double and therefore be out of range. So I don't necessarily agree with that set of views. Then there are other guys who have reported that if their E2 is 10 points higher or lower than their sweetspot, it makes a huge difference in libido and well being. Idk who's right or wrong, but I'll tell you what. Those men that report seeing a huge difference when their E2 is in that "sweetspot", I guarantee aren't liars. It just doesn't make sense for any of us to lie or exaggerate our experiences. So when a doctor or forum member disregards someone's anecdotal experience because it doesn't match up with their thoughts on the subject, or what they have personally experienced, it makes me so mad. For some people, I 100% believe they have a sweetspot where they feel amazing. Do we all have one? I have no idea. Everyone is so different, it's hard to say. Only way to find out though is through trial and error, to see if dialing in E2 makes a difference. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. But it absolutely does for some people, that I know for sure. Long story short, I personally would get your E2 within a normal range if it isn't already. And if that doesn't help libido, I would increase free T and see if that helps. If increasing free T makes E2 go up too much, I would try an AI and see if having a higher free T while keeping E2 within range helps. [/QUOTE]
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