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Minimizing Erythrocytosis w/ gels, pills, compounded dissolvables, daily injections?
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<blockquote data-quote="AndrewP" data-source="post: 277607" data-attributes="member: 46606"><p>I am currently on Natesto and while it works it is ultimately insufficient w/ a peak testosterone only around 400. I have covered studies on gels and pill options and it appears that pills are a very good approach with the softest effect on hematocrit. There is some debate in the literature and I am not certain if daily injections are comparatively so bad. It seems that estrogen control and lower average testosterone have the best effect. I see no reason to have high T at night so I am looking into these options. Compounded options like buccal testosterone and oral testosterone add even more complexity.</p><p></p><p>It took a couple years to figure out what was going on - low ferritin (10) from TRT has been the cause of debilitating fatigue that nearly caused me to drop out of my PhD program! <strong>I must find a way to seriously reduce erythrocytosis or MUST stop TRT. Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated!!! </strong>I am hoping for a value between 700 and 1000. My natural T is ~260 at 38. Qs:</p><p></p><p>Which pill formulation is <strong>strongest</strong>? Pill formulations seem... weak..</p><p>Are gels and daily injections <strong>comparable </strong>per their effects on RBC production?</p><p>How about <strong>compounded options </strong>like<strong> buccal </strong>or <strong>sublingual</strong>?</p><p><strong>Any other thoughts</strong>?</p><p></p><p>I am also thinking about SHBG and estrogen control as a way to reduce production</p><p></p><p>Thank you!</p><p></p><p><strong>UPDATE:</strong></p><p>An update. I got on Kyzatrex and although I don't know its effects on ferritin I can confirm that it causes a HUGE increase in testosterone.</p><p></p><p>I was prescribed 4x 200mg (maximum dose) to be taken 2 times per day.</p><p></p><p>The peak (4 hours) after the first dose but before the second sent me to <strong>2640 total testosterone</strong>. This is after taking 2, 200mg capsules with 2 eggs and a heavy dose of olive oil after 1 week of consistent dosing. I have no other T active as I have been off injections for a while and had been using nasal testosterone in its place.</p><p></p><p>I have since cut this in half taking 1 in the morning and 1 in the afternoon at 3 PM. Will report back.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AndrewP, post: 277607, member: 46606"] I am currently on Natesto and while it works it is ultimately insufficient w/ a peak testosterone only around 400. I have covered studies on gels and pill options and it appears that pills are a very good approach with the softest effect on hematocrit. There is some debate in the literature and I am not certain if daily injections are comparatively so bad. It seems that estrogen control and lower average testosterone have the best effect. I see no reason to have high T at night so I am looking into these options. Compounded options like buccal testosterone and oral testosterone add even more complexity. It took a couple years to figure out what was going on - low ferritin (10) from TRT has been the cause of debilitating fatigue that nearly caused me to drop out of my PhD program! [B]I must find a way to seriously reduce erythrocytosis or MUST stop TRT. Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated!!! [/B]I am hoping for a value between 700 and 1000. My natural T is ~260 at 38. Qs: Which pill formulation is [B]strongest[/B]? Pill formulations seem... weak.. Are gels and daily injections [B]comparable [/B]per their effects on RBC production? How about [B]compounded options [/B]like[B] buccal [/B]or [B]sublingual[/B]? [B]Any other thoughts[/B]? I am also thinking about SHBG and estrogen control as a way to reduce production Thank you! [B]UPDATE:[/B] An update. I got on Kyzatrex and although I don't know its effects on ferritin I can confirm that it causes a HUGE increase in testosterone. I was prescribed 4x 200mg (maximum dose) to be taken 2 times per day. The peak (4 hours) after the first dose but before the second sent me to [B]2640 total testosterone[/B]. This is after taking 2, 200mg capsules with 2 eggs and a heavy dose of olive oil after 1 week of consistent dosing. I have no other T active as I have been off injections for a while and had been using nasal testosterone in its place. I have since cut this in half taking 1 in the morning and 1 in the afternoon at 3 PM. Will report back. [/QUOTE]
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