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<blockquote data-quote="Cataceous" data-source="post: 214839" data-attributes="member: 38109"><p>However, 1,200 ng/dL is pretty much double the norm, and that's for healthy young men. Beyond that, you'd be hard pressed to find many men naturally over 1,000 ng/dL who don't have elevated SHBG, and thus more pedestrian free testosterone.</p><p></p><p>I again reject that "maintaining mid-range physiological T levels" can be characterized as micro-dosing. We would have to debate which sample of men is actually skewed. In the broader TRT world the number of men using low-concentration testosterone gels is significant, and this cohort is largely maintained at physiological levels. The men on dated protocols using infrequent injections are the ones skewing the numbers. They inject non-physiological amounts of testosterone in order to maintain physiological levels at the end of each injection cycle. The supraphysiological peaks are largely ignored. The modern Xyosted product makes this glaringly obvious, with its doses limited to 50, 75 and 100 mg TE per week.</p><p></p><p>We discussed this previously and I explained that I have minimal objections to experienced guys exploring moderately higher doses <em>if</em> they have already tried a range of physiological levels and are willing to accept whatever nebulous risks may exist. There are U-shaped mortality curves for most hormones, even if causality isn't established. What I object to is men being started on TRT at higher levels, even if in range. This is the opposite of the low-and-slow approach promoted by Dr. Crisler and others. What happens to those men who would feel best with numbers that are average or below—probably about half the population? They get screwed by the high-and-fast approach, never really experiencing what's best for them. By the time they decide they don't feel that great at higher numbers their bodies may be acclimated to the higher doses. Then the withdrawal symptoms from dosing lower are misinterpreted as the lower dose not working. And round and round they go.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cataceous, post: 214839, member: 38109"] However, 1,200 ng/dL is pretty much double the norm, and that's for healthy young men. Beyond that, you'd be hard pressed to find many men naturally over 1,000 ng/dL who don't have elevated SHBG, and thus more pedestrian free testosterone. I again reject that "maintaining mid-range physiological T levels" can be characterized as micro-dosing. We would have to debate which sample of men is actually skewed. In the broader TRT world the number of men using low-concentration testosterone gels is significant, and this cohort is largely maintained at physiological levels. The men on dated protocols using infrequent injections are the ones skewing the numbers. They inject non-physiological amounts of testosterone in order to maintain physiological levels at the end of each injection cycle. The supraphysiological peaks are largely ignored. The modern Xyosted product makes this glaringly obvious, with its doses limited to 50, 75 and 100 mg TE per week. We discussed this previously and I explained that I have minimal objections to experienced guys exploring moderately higher doses [I]if[/I] they have already tried a range of physiological levels and are willing to accept whatever nebulous risks may exist. There are U-shaped mortality curves for most hormones, even if causality isn't established. What I object to is men being started on TRT at higher levels, even if in range. This is the opposite of the low-and-slow approach promoted by Dr. Crisler and others. What happens to those men who would feel best with numbers that are average or below—probably about half the population? They get screwed by the high-and-fast approach, never really experiencing what's best for them. By the time they decide they don't feel that great at higher numbers their bodies may be acclimated to the higher doses. Then the withdrawal symptoms from dosing lower are misinterpreted as the lower dose not working. And round and round they go. [/QUOTE]
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