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<blockquote data-quote="Astrox" data-source="post: 103326" data-attributes="member: 18082"><p>Hi guys</p><p></p><p>33 year old male, been on TRT for a year in the form of tostran gel. Although the sweet spot for me is 100mg (10 pumps per day), this is causing a drastic increase in red cell count/heamoglobin etc, and I am in danger of being pulled off of it all together. Without TRT my levels drop to around 3.0-7.0 nmol/L. Not good.</p><p></p><p>I felt the best blood level of testosterone for me is around 15 nmol/L which is perfectly fair and within TRT range. It's an annoying situation, but is what it is. Blood donation/pulling even clinically - is out of the question. I've asked.</p><p></p><p>Whilst I understand any androgen will increase/impact cell count, I have a few questions. Should I be pulled off TRT and no longer able to obtain it, will a low dose of 4-Andro be able to keep my Testosterone levels within TRT ranges for a few months st least? Just to get by? I'd still have access to blood monitoring.</p><p></p><p>I have seen a suggestion that there are logs of guys using 4-andro as a makeshift TRT, but can't seem to find them. I understand 4-andro converts to testosterone through a 2 step conversion. Probably not as potent as the real thing, but enough to get by on?</p><p></p><p>Also I wonder if the slower conversion process will slow RBC increase. I am a great absorber to gel, my skin literally drinks it. Wondering if even splitting a dose of the gel to 4 morning 4 evening might help?</p><p></p><p>Again just to get by on if the gel is l</p><p>Pulled.</p><p></p><p>Thoughts?</p><p></p><p>Astro</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Astrox, post: 103326, member: 18082"] Hi guys 33 year old male, been on TRT for a year in the form of tostran gel. Although the sweet spot for me is 100mg (10 pumps per day), this is causing a drastic increase in red cell count/heamoglobin etc, and I am in danger of being pulled off of it all together. Without TRT my levels drop to around 3.0-7.0 nmol/L. Not good. I felt the best blood level of testosterone for me is around 15 nmol/L which is perfectly fair and within TRT range. It's an annoying situation, but is what it is. Blood donation/pulling even clinically - is out of the question. I've asked. Whilst I understand any androgen will increase/impact cell count, I have a few questions. Should I be pulled off TRT and no longer able to obtain it, will a low dose of 4-Andro be able to keep my Testosterone levels within TRT ranges for a few months st least? Just to get by? I'd still have access to blood monitoring. I have seen a suggestion that there are logs of guys using 4-andro as a makeshift TRT, but can't seem to find them. I understand 4-andro converts to testosterone through a 2 step conversion. Probably not as potent as the real thing, but enough to get by on? Also I wonder if the slower conversion process will slow RBC increase. I am a great absorber to gel, my skin literally drinks it. Wondering if even splitting a dose of the gel to 4 morning 4 evening might help? Again just to get by on if the gel is l Pulled. Thoughts? Astro [/QUOTE]
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