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Lowered TT and FT went Higher! Now What?
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<blockquote data-quote="Init2winit" data-source="post: 219640" data-attributes="member: 43465"><p>I don't want to go deep into my 10 year history on TRT. I have been reading these forums for a long time and finally decided to post. I have been on most all forms of T and Protocols, AI's, frequent Blood donations etc. Dealt with a lot of Dr. Quacks' in it for the money unfortunately. Needless to say I keep striving to get dialed in for a longer periods of time. I am a fast metabolizer and sensitive to most everything.</p><p></p><p>So over the last several months, I have eliminated AI's and blood donations. Which is pretty good for me as I would get caught up in that roller coaster. I have a super clean diet, exercise, take, mag, zinc, boron, Vit D and multi etc. BP is always around 112/70. Below was/is my protocol over the last several years/months</p><p></p><p><strong><u>Nov 24, 2021 - Felt like crap - like Low T/E symptoms - Crashed my E</u></strong></p><p>TT 759 (264-916)</p><p>FT 12.2 (7.2-24.0)</p><p>Estradiol 5.4 (7.6 - 42.6) Crashed it on crumbs of AI's</p><p>SHBG 44.6 (19.3-76.4)</p><p>Ferritin - 46 (30-400)</p><p>Iron - 208</p><p>Hemoglobin 16.9</p><p>Hematocrit - 50.8</p><p>Protocol EOD 26mg Test Cyp and crumbs (yes crumbs) of AI as needed for bloating, low mood (been on this for 3 years)</p><p>*labcorp</p><p></p><p><strong>***Changed Protocol to bring back E****</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><u>Jan 18th, 2022 - Felt Great - almost best I have felt except the 24/7 anxiety and insomnia</u></strong></p><p>TT 1167 (250-1100)</p><p>FT 173.9 (46-224.0)</p><p>Estradiol 40 (< or = 29)</p><p>SHBG 36.6 (22-77)</p><p>Ferritin 26 (38-380)</p><p>Hemoglobin 16.4</p><p>Hematocrit - 48.7</p><p>Protocol ED 16mg Cyp, no AI's. Added 6mg Boron, 10,000IU Vit D3 5 days per week, and curcumin 250mg daily</p><p>*Quest</p><p></p><p><strong>****Doc told me to back down the T (wasn't quite the full 30 days on this dose)***</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><u>Present Day - Tired/lethargic, no motivation, don't feel strong, mood so so... Figured T was high but didn't expect this!</u></strong></p><p>TT 897 (250-1100)</p><p>FT 196.7 (35 -155)</p><p>Estradiol 31 (< or = 29)</p><p>SHBG 33 (22-77)</p><p>Ferritin 22 (38-380)</p><p>Iron 197 (50-180)</p><p>Hemoglobin 17.3</p><p>Hematocrit - 33 </p><p>Protocol ED 13mg Cyp, no AI's. Same as above except dropped curcumin. (on this for 30 days)</p><p>*Quest</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>So how did my TT drop yet my FT increase? </strong> Everything for me remained the same. Diet, exercise and supplements except the curcumin. <strong>So this begs the question, where do I go from here, up or down?</strong> I do better on higher T/E and midrange/upper FT. How do I get there?? I know I can somewhat change my SHeeBanG by eating animal proteins. When I tried to be a vegetarian, my SHeeBanG was in the mid to upper 40's. Once I started eating chicken again, it came down - and the more eat (maybe 8 0z breasts a day) the lower it goes and higher my FT goes. I am not going to lower my meat intake, I only eat about 10 different foods I can tolerate anyway lol.</p><p></p><p>Any thoughts, comments appreciated.</p><p></p><p>Thanks</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Init2winit, post: 219640, member: 43465"] I don't want to go deep into my 10 year history on TRT. I have been reading these forums for a long time and finally decided to post. I have been on most all forms of T and Protocols, AI's, frequent Blood donations etc. Dealt with a lot of Dr. Quacks' in it for the money unfortunately. Needless to say I keep striving to get dialed in for a longer periods of time. I am a fast metabolizer and sensitive to most everything. So over the last several months, I have eliminated AI's and blood donations. Which is pretty good for me as I would get caught up in that roller coaster. I have a super clean diet, exercise, take, mag, zinc, boron, Vit D and multi etc. BP is always around 112/70. Below was/is my protocol over the last several years/months [B][U]Nov 24, 2021 - Felt like crap - like Low T/E symptoms - Crashed my E[/U][/B] TT 759 (264-916) FT 12.2 (7.2-24.0) Estradiol 5.4 (7.6 - 42.6) Crashed it on crumbs of AI's SHBG 44.6 (19.3-76.4) Ferritin - 46 (30-400) Iron - 208 Hemoglobin 16.9 Hematocrit - 50.8 Protocol EOD 26mg Test Cyp and crumbs (yes crumbs) of AI as needed for bloating, low mood (been on this for 3 years) *labcorp [B]***Changed Protocol to bring back E**** [U]Jan 18th, 2022 - Felt Great - almost best I have felt except the 24/7 anxiety and insomnia[/U][/B] TT 1167 (250-1100) FT 173.9 (46-224.0) Estradiol 40 (< or = 29) SHBG 36.6 (22-77) Ferritin 26 (38-380) Hemoglobin 16.4 Hematocrit - 48.7 Protocol ED 16mg Cyp, no AI's. Added 6mg Boron, 10,000IU Vit D3 5 days per week, and curcumin 250mg daily *Quest [B]****Doc told me to back down the T (wasn't quite the full 30 days on this dose)*** [U]Present Day - Tired/lethargic, no motivation, don't feel strong, mood so so... Figured T was high but didn't expect this![/U][/B] TT 897 (250-1100) FT 196.7 (35 -155) Estradiol 31 (< or = 29) SHBG 33 (22-77) Ferritin 22 (38-380) Iron 197 (50-180) Hemoglobin 17.3 Hematocrit - 33 Protocol ED 13mg Cyp, no AI's. Same as above except dropped curcumin. (on this for 30 days) *Quest [B]So how did my TT drop yet my FT increase? [/B] Everything for me remained the same. Diet, exercise and supplements except the curcumin. [B]So this begs the question, where do I go from here, up or down?[/B] I do better on higher T/E and midrange/upper FT. How do I get there?? I know I can somewhat change my SHeeBanG by eating animal proteins. When I tried to be a vegetarian, my SHeeBanG was in the mid to upper 40's. Once I started eating chicken again, it came down - and the more eat (maybe 8 0z breasts a day) the lower it goes and higher my FT goes. I am not going to lower my meat intake, I only eat about 10 different foods I can tolerate anyway lol. Any thoughts, comments appreciated. Thanks [/QUOTE]
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