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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Prostate Related Issues
Lowered PSA, 2.99 to 0.92, in Three Months
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<blockquote data-quote="DragonBits" data-source="post: 145444" data-attributes="member: 18023"><p><strong>@[USER=2624]CoastWatcher[/USER]</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Congrats on your lower PSA level. You must be relieved.</p><p></p><p>But I find the whole subject of PSA, prostate and various treatments to be vexing. You would think with BPH affecting 90% of men over 80 science would know more about it.</p><p></p><p>DHT causes it, but it doesn't, higher estrogen with lower testosterone causes BPH, unless it doesn't, dutasteride can shrink your prostate by limiting DHT, but (everyone fears the possible side effects), raising DHT doesn't increase prostate volume, does that make sense? etc, etc.</p><p></p><p>Science says that serum PSA levels elevate as prostate volume increases. Though prostatitis can also cause a rise in PSA.</p><p></p><p>Does that mean your prostate tripled in size when PSA went from 1>2.99 then shrank back to even smaller than a year ago?</p><p></p><p>I used Life Extension prostate supplement, but I also used Turmeric at the same time. So who knows for sure which (or something else) caused my PSA to decline from 4.2>3.4. I basically threw the kitchen sink at it since my rise from 2.4>4.2 was in 6 months and I just wanted it to stop.</p><p></p><p>I stopped the LEF supplement since i strongly suspect that was what caused my SHBG to go from 41>66, and 66 is higher than I want that to be. Logically, if logic applies at all, SHBG should go back down.</p><p></p><p>The TWO THINGS I really want to know?</p><p></p><p>My PSA had been 2.4-2.8 for twenty years, 5 of which I was on TRT. Suddenly in 6 months it nearly doubled. But this time I added HCG, so that could be it. Or not.</p><p></p><p>1) So what the hell caused that to happen? (sudden rise in PSA)</p><p></p><p>2) Is PSA going to stay stable now? Since I don't know for sure what made it go up, hard to tell.</p><p></p><p>I am also coming around to think the "kiss" prinipal should apply to hormones and some supplements.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you don't have insurance or some sort of high deduct plan, a biopsy is going to cost you $800-1700.</p><p></p><p>Putting that aside, it's my personal opinion that a biopsy is not medically indicated just because PSA rose. If there was an indication of cancer, like a %free test or SelectMDX test, suspect DRE, something else then I would think it's Ok.</p><p></p><p>A negative biopsy doesn't prove you don't have cancer. A negative result will likely be repeated if your PSA continues to rise.</p><p></p><p>Also I am not fond taking core samples of internal body parts.</p><p></p><p>I only got a colonoscopy because everyone said I should, and i only got 1 when I turned 63 and had insurance that would pay 100%. It wasn't bad as they knocked me out, they found zero problems, maybe I will get another for my 75th birthday.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DragonBits, post: 145444, member: 18023"] [B]@[USER=2624]CoastWatcher[/USER][/B] Congrats on your lower PSA level. You must be relieved. But I find the whole subject of PSA, prostate and various treatments to be vexing. You would think with BPH affecting 90% of men over 80 science would know more about it. DHT causes it, but it doesn't, higher estrogen with lower testosterone causes BPH, unless it doesn't, dutasteride can shrink your prostate by limiting DHT, but (everyone fears the possible side effects), raising DHT doesn't increase prostate volume, does that make sense? etc, etc. Science says that serum PSA levels elevate as prostate volume increases. Though prostatitis can also cause a rise in PSA. Does that mean your prostate tripled in size when PSA went from 1>2.99 then shrank back to even smaller than a year ago? I used Life Extension prostate supplement, but I also used Turmeric at the same time. So who knows for sure which (or something else) caused my PSA to decline from 4.2>3.4. I basically threw the kitchen sink at it since my rise from 2.4>4.2 was in 6 months and I just wanted it to stop. I stopped the LEF supplement since i strongly suspect that was what caused my SHBG to go from 41>66, and 66 is higher than I want that to be. Logically, if logic applies at all, SHBG should go back down. The TWO THINGS I really want to know? My PSA had been 2.4-2.8 for twenty years, 5 of which I was on TRT. Suddenly in 6 months it nearly doubled. But this time I added HCG, so that could be it. Or not. 1) So what the hell caused that to happen? (sudden rise in PSA) 2) Is PSA going to stay stable now? Since I don't know for sure what made it go up, hard to tell. I am also coming around to think the "kiss" prinipal should apply to hormones and some supplements. If you don't have insurance or some sort of high deduct plan, a biopsy is going to cost you $800-1700. Putting that aside, it's my personal opinion that a biopsy is not medically indicated just because PSA rose. If there was an indication of cancer, like a %free test or SelectMDX test, suspect DRE, something else then I would think it's Ok. A negative biopsy doesn't prove you don't have cancer. A negative result will likely be repeated if your PSA continues to rise. Also I am not fond taking core samples of internal body parts. I only got a colonoscopy because everyone said I should, and i only got 1 when I turned 63 and had insurance that would pay 100%. It wasn't bad as they knocked me out, they found zero problems, maybe I will get another for my 75th birthday. [/QUOTE]
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