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Testosterone Basics & Questions
Low T and elevated fasting blood sugar
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<blockquote data-quote="Re-Ride" data-source="post: 35491" data-attributes="member: 8395"><p>mIU/mL serum hCG did not "spike up at 48 hrs". It attained 3 and remained there until the draw at 48 hrs. The levels at hrs 49-71 are inferred from the data points at hr 48 and hr 72.</p><p></p><p>This study pertains to pt on TRT and the use of hCG as an adjunct therapy to maintain testicular health not as hCG monotherapy to attain healthy T levels. </p><p></p><p> The serum levels mIU/mL hCG not testosterone. The latter would show exogenous rather than endogenous T.</p><p></p><p>When Dr. Saya speaks of dosing at 500 EOD or E3/12D he is not referring to doses used for mono. </p><p></p><p>[" really hard to say if being treated with TRT for a long time would have an affect on the effective nature of the HCG too']</p><p></p><p>Possible but not likely unless the testicular tissue had severely atrophied. Most do fine though. More commonly it's the axis that doesn't want to restart not the testes. </p><p></p><p> Your doc evidently has a reason for not having given you a very large initial test dose of hCG. I was surprised how mine came back after years and years on gel. In the gap between end of TRT and start of hCG I regained some LH FSH and natural production. I was clueless at that point ( as were some 7 docs treating me at the time) or would have attempted a proper restart.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Re-Ride, post: 35491, member: 8395"] mIU/mL serum hCG did not "spike up at 48 hrs". It attained 3 and remained there until the draw at 48 hrs. The levels at hrs 49-71 are inferred from the data points at hr 48 and hr 72. This study pertains to pt on TRT and the use of hCG as an adjunct therapy to maintain testicular health not as hCG monotherapy to attain healthy T levels. The serum levels mIU/mL hCG not testosterone. The latter would show exogenous rather than endogenous T. When Dr. Saya speaks of dosing at 500 EOD or E3/12D he is not referring to doses used for mono. [" really hard to say if being treated with TRT for a long time would have an affect on the effective nature of the HCG too'] Possible but not likely unless the testicular tissue had severely atrophied. Most do fine though. More commonly it's the axis that doesn't want to restart not the testes. Your doc evidently has a reason for not having given you a very large initial test dose of hCG. I was surprised how mine came back after years and years on gel. In the gap between end of TRT and start of hCG I regained some LH FSH and natural production. I was clueless at that point ( as were some 7 docs treating me at the time) or would have attempted a proper restart. [/QUOTE]
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