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Low T and elevated fasting blood sugar
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<blockquote data-quote="Re-Ride" data-source="post: 35208" data-attributes="member: 8395"><p>You are still not understanding the fleeting nature of the endogenous T ! "Test in the trough" means you draw just before your next dose is due on the chosen protocol not after it. Testing as you plan will show you the maximum effect 500 IU are having on your production. Lets say that number is 726 ng/dl total T. At this point hCG is still signaling the Leydigs. The result shows that your body is replacing what is being continuously used at a rate sufficient to keep you in a healthy range. </p><p></p><p>What that result does not tell you is what is happening to serum t levels as they rapidly drop off as the hCG disappears. </p><p> </p><p>You are not going to feel well or be in a healthy state comes Friday ( 48 hrs after hCG) or Saturday morning (72 hrs after hCG). if your serum T has dropped to 200 because your Leydigs have gone back to sleep. </p><p></p><p>An incorrect belief by many practitioners is that they need to reproduce the body's pulasatory release of LH. Dr. Saya explained this very well on a recent post here. No matter what injection protocol is chosen for hCG it will never be possible to mimic the body's release of LH. His post is essential reading for you and for your prescriber.</p><p></p><p>Your next hCG dose needs to be timed to occur at a reasonable point on the downward slope of decreasing serum T. Let's say your personal study demonstrates that your serum T declines to 200 at 72 hours. That's too low. </p><p></p><p>We have no way of knowing what your actual numbers are going to be. First we don't know if you need 350 or 500 IU to get you to 725 or whatever your serum T goal is. Second we can speculate that on average you will see an unacceptable drop in serum T at 72 hrs post hCG but only a personal study will demonstrate that. </p><p></p><p>You've also chosen subQ over IM. I don't have any data to support this but my guess is the muscle deposition does a better job slowly releasing hCG in to your blood stream than subQ. For many the ease of subQ outweighs any advantage that IM may have</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Re-Ride, post: 35208, member: 8395"] You are still not understanding the fleeting nature of the endogenous T ! "Test in the trough" means you draw just before your next dose is due on the chosen protocol not after it. Testing as you plan will show you the maximum effect 500 IU are having on your production. Lets say that number is 726 ng/dl total T. At this point hCG is still signaling the Leydigs. The result shows that your body is replacing what is being continuously used at a rate sufficient to keep you in a healthy range. What that result does not tell you is what is happening to serum t levels as they rapidly drop off as the hCG disappears. You are not going to feel well or be in a healthy state comes Friday ( 48 hrs after hCG) or Saturday morning (72 hrs after hCG). if your serum T has dropped to 200 because your Leydigs have gone back to sleep. An incorrect belief by many practitioners is that they need to reproduce the body's pulasatory release of LH. Dr. Saya explained this very well on a recent post here. No matter what injection protocol is chosen for hCG it will never be possible to mimic the body's release of LH. His post is essential reading for you and for your prescriber. Your next hCG dose needs to be timed to occur at a reasonable point on the downward slope of decreasing serum T. Let's say your personal study demonstrates that your serum T declines to 200 at 72 hours. That's too low. We have no way of knowing what your actual numbers are going to be. First we don't know if you need 350 or 500 IU to get you to 725 or whatever your serum T goal is. Second we can speculate that on average you will see an unacceptable drop in serum T at 72 hrs post hCG but only a personal study will demonstrate that. You've also chosen subQ over IM. I don't have any data to support this but my guess is the muscle deposition does a better job slowly releasing hCG in to your blood stream than subQ. For many the ease of subQ outweighs any advantage that IM may have [/QUOTE]
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