ExcelMale
Menu
Home
What's new
Latest activity
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Videos
Lab Tests
Doctor Finder
Buy Books
About Us
Men’s Health Coaching
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Navigation
Install the app
Install
More options
Contact us
Close Menu
Forums
Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
Low Ferritin Solutions With Frequent Blood Donations
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Bambi" data-source="post: 48031" data-attributes="member: 2284"><p><strong>TRT, Iron, Ferritin</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My experience : I have read on this because I have experienced it. This is kinda a layman's perspective on my readings in PubMed and other sources. Might not all be totally correct, but works for me. Frequent blood donations do tank your Ferritin level. The rbc is churned out in bone marrow and has a certain level of iron and/or ability to absorb iron in the rbc. The iron is a component of hemoglobin or the oxygen transfer and holding substances in rbc. As a result of donations you also have a spectrum of smaller, younger red blood cells. The making of the new rbcs depletes the total stored Iron in our bodies. The lower ferritin (iron) also results in these smaller younger red blood cells having less 'iron' or the ability to absorb oxygen into the hemoglobin. The smaller iron deprived cells carry less oxygen and it leads to anemia (even with a higher rbc count). Reason being the many small less oxygen saturate rbc only have the same transfer sites as do normal iron normalized hemoglobin rbc (normal oxygen rbc). These smaller and weaker rbc can not transfer O-TWO as efficiently and hence one can feel weak, short of breath, tired. HAPPENED TO ME !!! I don't believe you want your iron to be extremely high but low to mid normal is really necessary. How I am trying to address this : I donate but push the donation out to 2 months and 3 weeks. Then after the donation for two weeks take "Fusion Plus" - I am shooting for trying to get iron stores up but not trigger polycythemia or at least delay it becoming troublesome as fast. Hematocrit level is a derived calculation or test result based on several variables. Anemia, iron stores, rbc size and transfer capacity is really quite a complex subject. You have iron stores and a transferritan or transfer rate of those stores into rbc's and this is in turn somewhat dependant on total rbc, iron store, the amount of enzymes to transfer the iron to the rbc, the size of the rbc and its ability to absorb or accept transfer. They can transfuse a person with iron and bring a person back up to normal - but it has some risk. Even after iron transfusion there is a lag time for your rbc to normalize and the transfused iron to bind to rbc capable of accepting enough iron to normal levels. If you can not deal with this, but have this side effect (which I do) - three or more approaches are (1) reduce your trt treatments to levels which do not make this happen [ and levels which may not make you 'feel' as strong and vital ] (2) stop the TRT (3) give blood and run semi-anemic or anemic. Hematologist indicated to me that within six months of stopping TRT my issues should level off to normal - if I wished to stop. May become necessary some day, but with work, sleep apnea issues of tiredness, and desire to exercise, I am trying to buy some time until I retired at least.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bambi, post: 48031, member: 2284"] [b]TRT, Iron, Ferritin[/b] My experience : I have read on this because I have experienced it. This is kinda a layman's perspective on my readings in PubMed and other sources. Might not all be totally correct, but works for me. Frequent blood donations do tank your Ferritin level. The rbc is churned out in bone marrow and has a certain level of iron and/or ability to absorb iron in the rbc. The iron is a component of hemoglobin or the oxygen transfer and holding substances in rbc. As a result of donations you also have a spectrum of smaller, younger red blood cells. The making of the new rbcs depletes the total stored Iron in our bodies. The lower ferritin (iron) also results in these smaller younger red blood cells having less 'iron' or the ability to absorb oxygen into the hemoglobin. The smaller iron deprived cells carry less oxygen and it leads to anemia (even with a higher rbc count). Reason being the many small less oxygen saturate rbc only have the same transfer sites as do normal iron normalized hemoglobin rbc (normal oxygen rbc). These smaller and weaker rbc can not transfer O-TWO as efficiently and hence one can feel weak, short of breath, tired. HAPPENED TO ME !!! I don't believe you want your iron to be extremely high but low to mid normal is really necessary. How I am trying to address this : I donate but push the donation out to 2 months and 3 weeks. Then after the donation for two weeks take "Fusion Plus" - I am shooting for trying to get iron stores up but not trigger polycythemia or at least delay it becoming troublesome as fast. Hematocrit level is a derived calculation or test result based on several variables. Anemia, iron stores, rbc size and transfer capacity is really quite a complex subject. You have iron stores and a transferritan or transfer rate of those stores into rbc's and this is in turn somewhat dependant on total rbc, iron store, the amount of enzymes to transfer the iron to the rbc, the size of the rbc and its ability to absorb or accept transfer. They can transfuse a person with iron and bring a person back up to normal - but it has some risk. Even after iron transfusion there is a lag time for your rbc to normalize and the transfused iron to bind to rbc capable of accepting enough iron to normal levels. If you can not deal with this, but have this side effect (which I do) - three or more approaches are (1) reduce your trt treatments to levels which do not make this happen [ and levels which may not make you 'feel' as strong and vital ] (2) stop the TRT (3) give blood and run semi-anemic or anemic. Hematologist indicated to me that within six months of stopping TRT my issues should level off to normal - if I wished to stop. May become necessary some day, but with work, sleep apnea issues of tiredness, and desire to exercise, I am trying to buy some time until I retired at least. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Share this page
Facebook
X (Twitter)
Reddit
Pinterest
Tumblr
WhatsApp
Email
Share
Link
Sponsors
Forums
Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
Low Ferritin Solutions With Frequent Blood Donations
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…
Top