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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Left Ventricle Hypertrophy and Nandrolone ( Decadurabolin )
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<blockquote data-quote="tdb" data-source="post: 78532" data-attributes="member: 14742"><p>Hi Mopes,</p><p></p><p>I am happy to hear your first knee injury is 98% better. Sorry to hear about your other knee.</p><p></p><p>I just came across this study indicated an increase in collagen synthesis in human subjects taking 15g gelatin and 50mg vit c 1 hour before 6 minutes of jump rope 3 x day </p><p></p><p>m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2016/11/15/ajcn.116.138594.abstract</p><p></p><p>Maybe that could help? Worth a try. The vit c was actually in the form of blackcurrant juice. You could get about 50mg vit c from one orange or kiwi. </p><p></p><p>It's funny to read how some people have amazing healing with BPC157 and others not much at all. I wonder if it is a difference in the quality of the product of different suppliers.</p><p></p><p> I am not an expert but I believe the BPC157 peptide acetate form, which is commonly sold, is fairly unstable. It is degraded by heat, light, air and shaking. I worked with other peptides for my graduate research and they required extreme care to ensure they were not degraded or destroyed during shipping, storing, reconstituting and administering. Perhaps some or all of the potency of your product was lost somewhere between the time of sequencing and administration. </p><p></p><p>Glad to hear you are taking taurine with the nandrolone<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I think you are right 50mg/week may be too low to experience an effect of nandrolone on my pain and injuries. It is just that most of the research shows some pretty good effect in the range of 25-600mg/wk for a variety of conditions, obviously the higher doses have more pronounced effects. That's a huge dose range though, 24 times difference in dose from the low to the high end. In most comparative studies that I have read it looks like nandrolone is about 2.5 times as strong an anabolic as testosterone per mg. So, 50mg nandrolone would be roughly 125mg testosterone in terms of anabolic effect. 125mg increase in test to my trt regimen sound like a lot to me. I am pretty risk aversive. And studies rarely examine the effect the nandrolone + test combo. If I were to take nandrolone, I would have access to comes in 50mg/ml ampules. for convenience, to reduce cost and chance of adverse events I want to start at the low end and work my way. If 50 works I am happy to keep my dose low and cycle it. If it doesn't the next cycle I will bump it up to 100, then if necessary in future cycle 150 and even 200.</p><p></p><p>I tend to favor the idea of not adding in any drugs unnecessarily. If you are taking a lot of AAS you may need the extra estrogen. Your body is pretty darn good at maintain homeostasis. There may be a number of benefits to estrogen increasing in proportion to test. If you are not having symptoms why take arimidex? as far as I know estrogen is good for HDL and it's a pretty potent anabolics in it's own right.</p><p></p><p>If I had to take something i like aromasin (exemastane) like. This is a nice exemestane pharmacokinetics study conducted in young healthy males. You won't find many of these with male subjects for other estrogen management drugs.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/12/5951/2661508/Pharmacokinetics-and-Dose-Finding-of-a-Potent" target="_blank">https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/12/5951/2661508/Pharmacokinetics-and-Dose-Finding-of-a-Potent</a></p><p></p><p>Thanks for sharing all your experience and info.</p><p></p><p>All the best.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tdb, post: 78532, member: 14742"] Hi Mopes, I am happy to hear your first knee injury is 98% better. Sorry to hear about your other knee. I just came across this study indicated an increase in collagen synthesis in human subjects taking 15g gelatin and 50mg vit c 1 hour before 6 minutes of jump rope 3 x day m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2016/11/15/ajcn.116.138594.abstract Maybe that could help? Worth a try. The vit c was actually in the form of blackcurrant juice. You could get about 50mg vit c from one orange or kiwi. It's funny to read how some people have amazing healing with BPC157 and others not much at all. I wonder if it is a difference in the quality of the product of different suppliers. I am not an expert but I believe the BPC157 peptide acetate form, which is commonly sold, is fairly unstable. It is degraded by heat, light, air and shaking. I worked with other peptides for my graduate research and they required extreme care to ensure they were not degraded or destroyed during shipping, storing, reconstituting and administering. Perhaps some or all of the potency of your product was lost somewhere between the time of sequencing and administration. Glad to hear you are taking taurine with the nandrolone;) I think you are right 50mg/week may be too low to experience an effect of nandrolone on my pain and injuries. It is just that most of the research shows some pretty good effect in the range of 25-600mg/wk for a variety of conditions, obviously the higher doses have more pronounced effects. That's a huge dose range though, 24 times difference in dose from the low to the high end. In most comparative studies that I have read it looks like nandrolone is about 2.5 times as strong an anabolic as testosterone per mg. So, 50mg nandrolone would be roughly 125mg testosterone in terms of anabolic effect. 125mg increase in test to my trt regimen sound like a lot to me. I am pretty risk aversive. And studies rarely examine the effect the nandrolone + test combo. If I were to take nandrolone, I would have access to comes in 50mg/ml ampules. for convenience, to reduce cost and chance of adverse events I want to start at the low end and work my way. If 50 works I am happy to keep my dose low and cycle it. If it doesn't the next cycle I will bump it up to 100, then if necessary in future cycle 150 and even 200. I tend to favor the idea of not adding in any drugs unnecessarily. If you are taking a lot of AAS you may need the extra estrogen. Your body is pretty darn good at maintain homeostasis. There may be a number of benefits to estrogen increasing in proportion to test. If you are not having symptoms why take arimidex? as far as I know estrogen is good for HDL and it's a pretty potent anabolics in it's own right. If I had to take something i like aromasin (exemastane) like. This is a nice exemestane pharmacokinetics study conducted in young healthy males. You won't find many of these with male subjects for other estrogen management drugs. [url]https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/12/5951/2661508/Pharmacokinetics-and-Dose-Finding-of-a-Potent[/url] Thanks for sharing all your experience and info. All the best. [/QUOTE]
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