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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Blood Test Discussion
Judge my blood work. Do I need an AI?
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 157066" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Agree overall with everything you stated except:</p><p></p><p> <strong><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Plus, as of January, your free T is almost double the top of the range for your age group. It was 32.3 pg/mL (6.6 - 18.1) as of January. Why is his too high, but yours isn’t too high when it’s way over the top of the range for your age?</span></strong> </p><p></p><p>- you very well know these levels were done using the piss poor inaccurate direct immunoassay and in that thread I did his calculation with the newer TruT method and his FT was at or just slightly just over the top end of the reference range 16-31 ng/dL.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"><strong>Some have tried everything and only feel good with free T close to double the top of the range.</strong></span></p><p></p><p>- when using an inaccurate testing method such as the direct immunoassay or tracer analog or even the outdated calculated models based of of the linear law-of-mass action Vermuelen method or empiric equations.....<span style="color: rgb(26, 188, 156)"><strong>SURE!</strong></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">-as far as one needing FT (trough) levels double the top end of the reference range when having FT tested using an accurate method such as the gold standard to Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration (next best) or using the newer calculated TruT method (shown to be on par with results obtained by the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis) to experience benefit from testosterone replacement.....</span><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"><strong>I call BULLSHIT!</strong></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">-for one to have a FT (trough) double the top end of the range using the newer calculated TruT method you are basically saying one would need a FT of 60 ng/dL.....highly doubtful one would need such.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">-as you very well know that infamous doctor many seem to dick ride has stated that most of his patients do well having FT levels in the 30 ng/dL range.....an at least this is based off of one of the most accurate testing methods for FT as he uses Equilibrium Dialysis not the piss poor inaccurate direct immunoassay.....let alone the outdated calculated Vermeulen method!</span></p><p></p><p>-I would say most men will do well having a FT trough level in the 30+ ng/dL range.....sure some may choose/need slightly higher levels but highly doubtful anyone needs a trough of 50+ ng/dL to benefit from trt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 157066, member: 13851"] Agree overall with everything you stated except: [B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Plus, as of January, your free T is almost double the top of the range for your age group. It was 32.3 pg/mL (6.6 - 18.1) as of January. Why is his too high, but yours isn’t too high when it’s way over the top of the range for your age?[/COLOR][/B] - you very well know these levels were done using the piss poor inaccurate direct immunoassay and in that thread I did his calculation with the newer TruT method and his FT was at or just slightly just over the top end of the reference range 16-31 ng/dL. [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)][B]Some have tried everything and only feel good with free T close to double the top of the range.[/B][/COLOR] - when using an inaccurate testing method such as the direct immunoassay or tracer analog or even the outdated calculated models based of of the linear law-of-mass action Vermuelen method or empiric equations.....[COLOR=rgb(26, 188, 156)][B]SURE![/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]-as far as one needing FT (trough) levels double the top end of the reference range when having FT tested using an accurate method such as the gold standard to Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration (next best) or using the newer calculated TruT method (shown to be on par with results obtained by the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis) to experience benefit from testosterone replacement.....[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)][B]I call BULLSHIT![/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]-for one to have a FT (trough) double the top end of the range using the newer calculated TruT method you are basically saying one would need a FT of 60 ng/dL.....highly doubtful one would need such.[/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]-as you very well know that infamous doctor many seem to dick ride has stated that most of his patients do well having FT levels in the 30 ng/dL range.....an at least this is based off of one of the most accurate testing methods for FT as he uses Equilibrium Dialysis not the piss poor inaccurate direct immunoassay.....let alone the outdated calculated Vermeulen method![/COLOR] -I would say most men will do well having a FT trough level in the 30+ ng/dL range.....sure some may choose/need slightly higher levels but highly doubtful anyone needs a trough of 50+ ng/dL to benefit from trt. [/QUOTE]
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