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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
Is free T the best metric when thinking about symptom improvement?
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<blockquote data-quote="Re-Ride" data-source="post: 21326" data-attributes="member: 8395"><p>You didn't mention any A.I. Hope you are getting all the recommended labs. Post up what you have and specify starting point, hCG only and the new results when you get them. </p><p></p><p>It seems like you are getting the hCG from the pharmacy. Brand? Are you certain that you are not mishandling it? Not shaking the vial, promptly refrigerating the reconstitute? </p><p></p><p>Did your doc initially perform a response test with clomid or high dose hCG prior to this regimen to rule out primary hypoG? </p><p></p><p>Old protocols called for a massive kick-start dose in the 4,000 iu range. In fact 12,000 weekly is one protocol listed on the APP pkg insert. I question the wisdom or validity of this but was what I was prescribed (no AI). At six weeks tot T more than doubled from the stating point: [[298 ng/dL, 88 pg/ml free or 3.4% free, prolactin: 8 ( 2.1-17.7)]] At six weeks tot T was 700 on mono. Libido and performance like a kid but this was accompanied by high E2= 83 pg/mL and very painful nips. DHEA-s was <strong>442H</strong> ( 25-95 ug/dL) from taking an OTC male enhancer which complicates interpretation of my result. Went cold turkey for a few weeks then re-started 500iu daily with cautious use of Arimidex. Seems like my threshold for libido is now 1,000 i.u. bit I'll stick with 500 until I see the labs. </p><p></p><p>The only thing your doc did differently from the pkg insert was not waiting a month prior to re-starting at 2500iu hCG. Even with the very modest increase in T on mono it is helpful for others to see your numbers and to fully describe the other perceived benefits such as feeling "fuller", firmer, ejac. volume, satisfaction ect.</p><p></p><p>GLWNR good luck new regimen!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Re-Ride, post: 21326, member: 8395"] You didn't mention any A.I. Hope you are getting all the recommended labs. Post up what you have and specify starting point, hCG only and the new results when you get them. It seems like you are getting the hCG from the pharmacy. Brand? Are you certain that you are not mishandling it? Not shaking the vial, promptly refrigerating the reconstitute? Did your doc initially perform a response test with clomid or high dose hCG prior to this regimen to rule out primary hypoG? Old protocols called for a massive kick-start dose in the 4,000 iu range. In fact 12,000 weekly is one protocol listed on the APP pkg insert. I question the wisdom or validity of this but was what I was prescribed (no AI). At six weeks tot T more than doubled from the stating point: [[298 ng/dL, 88 pg/ml free or 3.4% free, prolactin: 8 ( 2.1-17.7)]] At six weeks tot T was 700 on mono. Libido and performance like a kid but this was accompanied by high E2= 83 pg/mL and very painful nips. DHEA-s was [B]442H[/B] ( 25-95 ug/dL) from taking an OTC male enhancer which complicates interpretation of my result. Went cold turkey for a few weeks then re-started 500iu daily with cautious use of Arimidex. Seems like my threshold for libido is now 1,000 i.u. bit I'll stick with 500 until I see the labs. The only thing your doc did differently from the pkg insert was not waiting a month prior to re-starting at 2500iu hCG. Even with the very modest increase in T on mono it is helpful for others to see your numbers and to fully describe the other perceived benefits such as feeling "fuller", firmer, ejac. volume, satisfaction ect. GLWNR good luck new regimen! [/QUOTE]
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