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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
When Testosterone Is Not Enough
Is “Enclomiphene Citrate” going to replace hCG in the USA?
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<blockquote data-quote="technomentor" data-source="post: 219344" data-attributes="member: 18512"><p>FWIW....</p><p>Thru Defy, last summer I opted to test enclomiphene treatment vs. shots. My T has been low (250-300) for the past few years. Primary symptoms I wanted to improve:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lack of energy</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Muscle loss</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Loss of libido</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lack of focus/drive</li> </ul><p><strong>Results</strong></p><p><em>2021-07-08</em> - Initial labs, before consultation and starting treatment</p><p>Total T: 227 ng/dL</p><p>Free T: 6.6</p><p>DHEA-S: 353</p><p>LH: 3.4</p><p>PSA: 0.9</p><p>IGF-1: 132</p><p>Estradiol: 11.6</p><p>SHBG: 38.7</p><p></p><p>2021-09-01 - started enclomiphene 25mg by mouth daily</p><p></p><p><em>2021-10-01</em></p><p>Total T: 872 ng/dL <-- major jump in just one month</p><p>I chose to test more frequently than Defy recommended. Since my target was 600-800 I shared results with Dr. Saya. We decided to titrate back to 25 mg three times per week.</p><p></p><p><em>2021-11-09</em></p><p>Total T: 750 ng/dL <-- now w/i my desired range</p><p>Free T: 19.4</p><p>LH: 9.6</p><p>PSA: 1.5</p><p>FSH: 10.9</p><p>DHEA-S: 289</p><p>IGF-1: 109</p><p>Estradiol: 24.1 <-- more than doubled</p><p>SHBG: 48.3</p><p></p><p><strong>My Results</strong></p><p>Although all T levels improved, <em><u>none of my symptoms did</u></em>. I discussed this with Dr. Saya during a Dec appointment. He explained the difference between how enclomiphene works vs. exogenous testosterone. </p><p></p><p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p><p>I chose to stop enclomiphene treatment becasue I experienced no change in my symptoms. Dr. Saya said I needed to wait 90 days for it to clear my system, then complete a new male hormone baseline before deciding on the protocol using shots. I have a lab order for my new tests. </p><p></p><p><strong>Personal Stats</strong></p><p>I'm 57, 175 lbs, 5'-11" with a BMI of just under 25. I exercise regularly (4-5 times/wk) and have changed my eating habits (significantly lower carbs) since I have confirmed CVD, as determined by recent CAC and CIMT testing. My thyroid levels are all in ideal ranges. That said, I recently completed a diurnal saliva test and determined that I'm at Stage 3 of adrenal dysfunction. Several of the symptoms I want to improve are also affected by cortisol levels. I am reading Adrenal Fatigue by D. James L Wilson to determine a treatment protocol for this -- since most endocrinologists don't believe in adrenal insufficiency/fatigue. Hell, they won't even order diurnal saliva tests - I did that on my own. I am also planning on getting a sleep study to check for sleep apnea since I don't sleep well/experience unrestful sleep -- and we all know that sleep is a key factor in overall health.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="technomentor, post: 219344, member: 18512"] FWIW.... Thru Defy, last summer I opted to test enclomiphene treatment vs. shots. My T has been low (250-300) for the past few years. Primary symptoms I wanted to improve: [LIST] [*]Lack of energy [*]Muscle loss [*]Loss of libido [*]Lack of focus/drive [/LIST] [B]Results[/B] [I]2021-07-08[/I] - Initial labs, before consultation and starting treatment Total T: 227 ng/dL Free T: 6.6 DHEA-S: 353 LH: 3.4 PSA: 0.9 IGF-1: 132 Estradiol: 11.6 SHBG: 38.7 2021-09-01 - started enclomiphene 25mg by mouth daily [I]2021-10-01[/I] Total T: 872 ng/dL <-- major jump in just one month I chose to test more frequently than Defy recommended. Since my target was 600-800 I shared results with Dr. Saya. We decided to titrate back to 25 mg three times per week. [I]2021-11-09[/I] Total T: 750 ng/dL <-- now w/i my desired range Free T: 19.4 LH: 9.6 PSA: 1.5 FSH: 10.9 DHEA-S: 289 IGF-1: 109 Estradiol: 24.1 <-- more than doubled SHBG: 48.3 [B]My Results[/B] Although all T levels improved, [I][U]none of my symptoms did[/U][/I]. I discussed this with Dr. Saya during a Dec appointment. He explained the difference between how enclomiphene works vs. exogenous testosterone. [B]Conclusion[/B] I chose to stop enclomiphene treatment becasue I experienced no change in my symptoms. Dr. Saya said I needed to wait 90 days for it to clear my system, then complete a new male hormone baseline before deciding on the protocol using shots. I have a lab order for my new tests. [B]Personal Stats[/B] I'm 57, 175 lbs, 5'-11" with a BMI of just under 25. I exercise regularly (4-5 times/wk) and have changed my eating habits (significantly lower carbs) since I have confirmed CVD, as determined by recent CAC and CIMT testing. My thyroid levels are all in ideal ranges. That said, I recently completed a diurnal saliva test and determined that I'm at Stage 3 of adrenal dysfunction. Several of the symptoms I want to improve are also affected by cortisol levels. I am reading Adrenal Fatigue by D. James L Wilson to determine a treatment protocol for this -- since most endocrinologists don't believe in adrenal insufficiency/fatigue. Hell, they won't even order diurnal saliva tests - I did that on my own. I am also planning on getting a sleep study to check for sleep apnea since I don't sleep well/experience unrestful sleep -- and we all know that sleep is a key factor in overall health. [/QUOTE]
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