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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
Insomnia help. I have been on TRT for 15 days and can barely sleep.
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<blockquote data-quote="Stoak" data-source="post: 178485" data-attributes="member: 40735"><p>I never would have considered 170mg anything more than a baby dose based on the old bodybuilding days (I know that it is on the high end for TRT). I've always used and found a 5-6X multiplier to work for me (my bw confirmed this years ago when using testosterone for aesthetic purposes) in terms of dose in mg in x5 = 850-1020ng/dl which didn't seem crazy to me. I'm using Peter Uncaged as my clinic in Florida right now and their baseline protocol in terms of a "number" is 900. Maybe I am just older and more susceptible. I have had a couple of anxiety attacks in the past 5 years but I don't consider myself an anxious person. I always thought these couple episodes were situational (once was in a MRI machine, another was on a packed bus with no A/C after a night of heavy drinking).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think this is so crazy. I'm going to save this in my back pocket for when I get super desperate. I may take the dose down in .05 ml increments. that would take me from 170 to 150... work my way down. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I used melatonin 2 nights and it was the same response only I was really groggy and nauseous the next day instead of just tired. I didn't have the extended release but I would be willing to try that. I started some KSM-66 Ashwagandha at 500mg 2X per day. I've also cut out all alcohol (which was one of my goals when starting TRT)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks for your experience. What I'm really trying to determine is how long to stick it out (is this insomnia a 2-3 week transient adjustment due to beginning TRT or really just a permanent function of this dose). Seems like in your case it wasn't transient. I'm not panicked about stopping and getting my natural production back. I took large dose of anabolics for 4 years over a decade ago and things came back without really a problem. I made a baby, my penis works, I don't look malnourished etc. I did sign a 6 month contract for treatment with this clinic which would be a small worry if they wouldn't let me out of it, but in the scheme of things it isn't that much money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stoak, post: 178485, member: 40735"] I never would have considered 170mg anything more than a baby dose based on the old bodybuilding days (I know that it is on the high end for TRT). I've always used and found a 5-6X multiplier to work for me (my bw confirmed this years ago when using testosterone for aesthetic purposes) in terms of dose in mg in x5 = 850-1020ng/dl which didn't seem crazy to me. I'm using Peter Uncaged as my clinic in Florida right now and their baseline protocol in terms of a "number" is 900. Maybe I am just older and more susceptible. I have had a couple of anxiety attacks in the past 5 years but I don't consider myself an anxious person. I always thought these couple episodes were situational (once was in a MRI machine, another was on a packed bus with no A/C after a night of heavy drinking). I don't think this is so crazy. I'm going to save this in my back pocket for when I get super desperate. I may take the dose down in .05 ml increments. that would take me from 170 to 150... work my way down. I used melatonin 2 nights and it was the same response only I was really groggy and nauseous the next day instead of just tired. I didn't have the extended release but I would be willing to try that. I started some KSM-66 Ashwagandha at 500mg 2X per day. I've also cut out all alcohol (which was one of my goals when starting TRT) Thanks for your experience. What I'm really trying to determine is how long to stick it out (is this insomnia a 2-3 week transient adjustment due to beginning TRT or really just a permanent function of this dose). Seems like in your case it wasn't transient. I'm not panicked about stopping and getting my natural production back. I took large dose of anabolics for 4 years over a decade ago and things came back without really a problem. I made a baby, my penis works, I don't look malnourished etc. I did sign a 6 month contract for treatment with this clinic which would be a small worry if they wouldn't let me out of it, but in the scheme of things it isn't that much money. [/QUOTE]
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Insomnia help. I have been on TRT for 15 days and can barely sleep.
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