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I doubt if I could get the hpta to do all work so see hcg as something I need to continue. Just trying to find the best thing to assist. Since my testicles are still functioning I would like to use those options first if not creating other issues. Good thought on low shbg guys trying low dose cc. I bet it would work. Anybody try tongkat ali for shbg elevations? I did some boron years ago when just using T. It never did much. When I dropped the T dose and started hcg it seemed like shbg settled in at the midpoint. Was rare for me to check it.