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I Haven’t Slept in 4 years. What to Do?
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<blockquote data-quote="Reason" data-source="post: 194465" data-attributes="member: 17508"><p>First of all, I'm really sorry you're going through this and hope you've found some help.</p><p></p><p>I haven't had good (natural) sleep at any point in my life for a consistent amount of time. I'm 40. Spurts of 6hrs/night here and there. I probably with physiological/neurological delta-wave disruption or circadian rhythm disregulation. I've been on TRT for 3 years and it has had a mildly positive effect on my sleep, but I still wake up feeling absolutely miserable 6/7 days a week. It's my life's biggest challenge.</p><p></p><p>Here's what I've learned, personally:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Sleep hygiene (what Nelson mentioned) is huge. Starts in the morning with getting sunlight right after awakening to regulate your circadian clock. Other stuff that really matters is light exposure at night, quiet, dark, cool sleep environment, CONSISTENT bed time and routine.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Sleep meds are <em>not </em>long-term solutions. Period. I've been on 3-4 different ones and was dependent for years. BAD. The sleep you do get is not restorative and they will stop working. Withdrawal is hell.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Very high E2 has disrupted my sleep. I've found my sweet spot (mid 30s) and try to stay there.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">DHEA, Pregnenolone, GABA, Reishi, Magnesium, etc. all kinda sorta help but they're not cures. I can't take Melatonin as it consistently gives me nightmares.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Cannabis was a major help early when I was learning how to create a clean sleep routine. It quieted my overactive mind and I fell asleep fine with it with no noticeable side effects. I live in NY now so I don't have easy access anymore and miss it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Mental health is a major component. My anxiety takes over once my badly-regulated sleep drive starts wearing off around 4hrs into sleep and I wake up and usually can't get deep sleep again. I am currently investigating other things.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I can sleep without any aid most nights, but most nights can't get more than 4-5hrs. I feel best at around 8. I sleep like an angel on benzos, but I avoid taking them more than 1x a week.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Get tested for apnea if you're overweight, snore, or wake up feeling groggy. It was a small component of my poor sleep (one of many). I get better sleep with my CPAP machine, not good, better.</li> </ol><p>Best of luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Reason, post: 194465, member: 17508"] First of all, I'm really sorry you're going through this and hope you've found some help. I haven't had good (natural) sleep at any point in my life for a consistent amount of time. I'm 40. Spurts of 6hrs/night here and there. I probably with physiological/neurological delta-wave disruption or circadian rhythm disregulation. I've been on TRT for 3 years and it has had a mildly positive effect on my sleep, but I still wake up feeling absolutely miserable 6/7 days a week. It's my life's biggest challenge. Here's what I've learned, personally: [LIST=1] [*]Sleep hygiene (what Nelson mentioned) is huge. Starts in the morning with getting sunlight right after awakening to regulate your circadian clock. Other stuff that really matters is light exposure at night, quiet, dark, cool sleep environment, CONSISTENT bed time and routine. [*]Sleep meds are [I]not [/I]long-term solutions. Period. I've been on 3-4 different ones and was dependent for years. BAD. The sleep you do get is not restorative and they will stop working. Withdrawal is hell. [*]Very high E2 has disrupted my sleep. I've found my sweet spot (mid 30s) and try to stay there. [*]DHEA, Pregnenolone, GABA, Reishi, Magnesium, etc. all kinda sorta help but they're not cures. I can't take Melatonin as it consistently gives me nightmares. [*]Cannabis was a major help early when I was learning how to create a clean sleep routine. It quieted my overactive mind and I fell asleep fine with it with no noticeable side effects. I live in NY now so I don't have easy access anymore and miss it. [*]Mental health is a major component. My anxiety takes over once my badly-regulated sleep drive starts wearing off around 4hrs into sleep and I wake up and usually can't get deep sleep again. I am currently investigating other things. [*]I can sleep without any aid most nights, but most nights can't get more than 4-5hrs. I feel best at around 8. I sleep like an angel on benzos, but I avoid taking them more than 1x a week. [*]Get tested for apnea if you're overweight, snore, or wake up feeling groggy. It was a small component of my poor sleep (one of many). I get better sleep with my CPAP machine, not good, better. [/LIST] Best of luck. [/QUOTE]
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