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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
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I feel best on a protocol that puts me above range... advice?
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 202511" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Unfortunately, he has never given most of his protocols a fighting chance.....put the time in!</p><p></p><p>Switching things up left and right.</p><p></p><p>Let alone ranting and raving after being on injections and switching over to scrotal application it was the next best thing only then to move onto a high-dosed nandrolone/low-t based protocol again claiming it was the next best thing.</p><p></p><p>Now back on the high-dosed T protocol and added in low dose ND to boot.</p><p></p><p>He was jacked up on T from the get-go running an absurdly high trough TT/FT level let alone was and has been using/relying upon inaccurate assays when testing FT trying to convince himself that his trough FT levels are not absurdly high.....claiming that he needs to run such high levels due to higher SHBG.....LMFAO!</p><p></p><p>He has never given a lower-dose T protocol a fighting chance.</p><p></p><p>Trust me when I tell you that one can easily achieve a high-end trough FT let alone in many cases an absurdly high trough FT hitting a TT 1000-1200 ng/dL and yes that is even with men with <u>highish/high SHBG</u>.</p><p></p><p>As I have stated numerous times on the forum that although TT is important to know FT is what truly matters as it is the unbound active fraction of testosterone responsible for the positive effects.</p><p></p><p>The only way to know where your FT level truly sits is to have it tested using the most accurate assays such as the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration.</p><p></p><p>A FT 5-10 ng/dL would be considered low.</p><p></p><p>FT 16-31 ng/dL is healthy.</p><p></p><p>Most men on trt will do well with FT 20-30 ng/dL.</p><p></p><p>Some may choose to run higher levels.</p><p></p><p>Comes down to the individual.</p><p></p><p>Most healthy young men in their PRIME (late-teens/the early 20s) would not even be hitting a FT 30 ng/dL and this is at peak.</p><p></p><p>Highly doubtful when on trt a trough FT 50-60+ ng/dL is needed to experience the beneficial effects of trt.</p><p></p><p>Many claiming to need such levels have underlying thyroid/adrenal issues let alone have never given a lower dosed protocol a fighting chance jacking up their T levels every 6 weeks if they do not feel great.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, too many are uninformed and lack the understanding of how the use of exogenous T works.</p><p></p><p>Too many get caught up in the more T is better mentality.</p><p></p><p>Could care less where someone chooses to run their levels with what they would consider being so-called optimal as long as they feel great overall and blood markers are healthy.</p><p></p><p>The sad fact of the matter is too many men are running trough FT levels well beyond what would be needed and in many cases end up struggling.</p><p></p><p>Sure some may do well but it is far and few!</p><p></p><p>Top it all off that not only have we shut down the HPG axis but many are running absurdly high TT/FT levels well beyond what the body could endogenously produce let alone in its prime (late teens/the early 20s) and this is steady f**king state!</p><p></p><p>This clown is going on about claiming everything is all about <u><strong><em>balance</em></strong></u>.....go figure!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 202511, member: 13851"] Unfortunately, he has never given most of his protocols a fighting chance.....put the time in! Switching things up left and right. Let alone ranting and raving after being on injections and switching over to scrotal application it was the next best thing only then to move onto a high-dosed nandrolone/low-t based protocol again claiming it was the next best thing. Now back on the high-dosed T protocol and added in low dose ND to boot. He was jacked up on T from the get-go running an absurdly high trough TT/FT level let alone was and has been using/relying upon inaccurate assays when testing FT trying to convince himself that his trough FT levels are not absurdly high.....claiming that he needs to run such high levels due to higher SHBG.....LMFAO! He has never given a lower-dose T protocol a fighting chance. Trust me when I tell you that one can easily achieve a high-end trough FT let alone in many cases an absurdly high trough FT hitting a TT 1000-1200 ng/dL and yes that is even with men with [U]highish/high SHBG[/U]. As I have stated numerous times on the forum that although TT is important to know FT is what truly matters as it is the unbound active fraction of testosterone responsible for the positive effects. The only way to know where your FT level truly sits is to have it tested using the most accurate assays such as the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration. A FT 5-10 ng/dL would be considered low. FT 16-31 ng/dL is healthy. Most men on trt will do well with FT 20-30 ng/dL. Some may choose to run higher levels. Comes down to the individual. Most healthy young men in their PRIME (late-teens/the early 20s) would not even be hitting a FT 30 ng/dL and this is at peak. Highly doubtful when on trt a trough FT 50-60+ ng/dL is needed to experience the beneficial effects of trt. Many claiming to need such levels have underlying thyroid/adrenal issues let alone have never given a lower dosed protocol a fighting chance jacking up their T levels every 6 weeks if they do not feel great. Unfortunately, too many are uninformed and lack the understanding of how the use of exogenous T works. Too many get caught up in the more T is better mentality. Could care less where someone chooses to run their levels with what they would consider being so-called optimal as long as they feel great overall and blood markers are healthy. The sad fact of the matter is too many men are running trough FT levels well beyond what would be needed and in many cases end up struggling. Sure some may do well but it is far and few! Top it all off that not only have we shut down the HPG axis but many are running absurdly high TT/FT levels well beyond what the body could endogenously produce let alone in its prime (late teens/the early 20s) and this is steady f**king state! This clown is going on about claiming everything is all about [U][B][I]balance[/I][/B][/U].....go figure! [/QUOTE]
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