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I feel best on a protocol that puts me above range... advice?
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 200804" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Pointless to post FT level on the 3rd set of labs as it was not tested using an accurate assay!</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://testdirectory.questdiagnostics.com/test/test-detail/18944/testosterone-free?cc=MASTER[/URL]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]14120[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>As you should very well know to truly claim such one would need to have given each protocol 12-16 weeks which includes the first 4-6 weeks that it takes for blood levels to stabilize.</p><p></p><p>If you have done such for each new protocol (dose T/injection frequency) then if you truly feel best running absurdly high trough FT then leave it be.</p><p></p><p><em><strong>*Again if you feel great overall, blood markers are healthy and you are not experiencing/battling any sides then I would not be concerned.</strong></em></p><p></p><p>Although you are struggling with acne then it is something you will need to deal with from running very high trough TT 1200s with an SHBG of 30nmol/L which has your trough FT absurdly high.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I would rather have my TT/FT levels on the higher-end or slightly above and many may fair better running slightly higher levels but at the same time, there are many who will do much better running lower levels but it is highly doubtful anyone truly needs to be running those <u>absurdly high TT/FT</u> levels to experience the beneficial effects of having healthy testosterone.</p><p></p><p>Most that claim such have underlying issues with thyroid/adrenals or are trying to convince themselves that absurdly high T levels are better/needed.</p><p></p><p>Let's not even get into the numerous poor bastards that are started of on an insanely high dose of T from the get-go and have never had a chance to see how their bodies would react to lower levels.</p><p></p><p>Top it all of that many are clueless as to how exogenous T works and are switching their protocols (dose T/injection frequency) every 6 weeks in.</p><p></p><p>Every protocol needs to be given at least 12 weeks to gauge how one truly feels about said protocol.</p><p></p><p>Then the icing on the cake is many are using inaccurate assays when it comes to testing FT and has no f**king clue where levels truly sit.</p><p></p><p>That being said no one needs to be running trough TT 1500-2000 ng/dL to benefit from testosterone replacement therapy regardless of how great they may feel or if blood markers are supposedly healthy and if anything they most likely have dysfunctional</p><p>thyroid/adrenals.</p><p></p><p>Here is the S**T KICKER.</p><p></p><p>You have people on the forum going on and on about <u><strong><em>so-called optimal let alone everything being in balance</em></strong></u><strong><em> yet these same individuals trying their damndest to micro-manage estradiol/DHT/prolactin/DHEA and the laundry list goes on yet <u>when it comes to T are running levels well F**KING beyond what their body could ever produce endogenously let alone what level they were genetically at in their PRIME</u> (late teens/the early 20s).</em></strong></p><p></p><p>No male in his prime (late teens/the early 20s) was producing absurdly high peak or trough TT/FT levels let alone 24/7 (steady-state)!</p><p></p><p><strong><em>Top it all of that your HPGA is shut down and <u>most are not replacing physiological levels of T they are forcing levels upon THEMSELVES well f**king beyond what one could endogenously ever produce</u>.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>Complete S**T SHOW!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 200804, member: 13851"] Pointless to post FT level on the 3rd set of labs as it was not tested using an accurate assay! [URL unfurl="true"]https://testdirectory.questdiagnostics.com/test/test-detail/18944/testosterone-free?cc=MASTER[/URL] [ATTACH type="full" alt="Screenshot (4595).png"]14120[/ATTACH] As you should very well know to truly claim such one would need to have given each protocol 12-16 weeks which includes the first 4-6 weeks that it takes for blood levels to stabilize. If you have done such for each new protocol (dose T/injection frequency) then if you truly feel best running absurdly high trough FT then leave it be. [I][B]*Again if you feel great overall, blood markers are healthy and you are not experiencing/battling any sides then I would not be concerned.[/B][/I] Although you are struggling with acne then it is something you will need to deal with from running very high trough TT 1200s with an SHBG of 30nmol/L which has your trough FT absurdly high. Personally, I would rather have my TT/FT levels on the higher-end or slightly above and many may fair better running slightly higher levels but at the same time, there are many who will do much better running lower levels but it is highly doubtful anyone truly needs to be running those [U]absurdly high TT/FT[/U] levels to experience the beneficial effects of having healthy testosterone. Most that claim such have underlying issues with thyroid/adrenals or are trying to convince themselves that absurdly high T levels are better/needed. Let's not even get into the numerous poor bastards that are started of on an insanely high dose of T from the get-go and have never had a chance to see how their bodies would react to lower levels. Top it all of that many are clueless as to how exogenous T works and are switching their protocols (dose T/injection frequency) every 6 weeks in. Every protocol needs to be given at least 12 weeks to gauge how one truly feels about said protocol. Then the icing on the cake is many are using inaccurate assays when it comes to testing FT and has no f**king clue where levels truly sit. That being said no one needs to be running trough TT 1500-2000 ng/dL to benefit from testosterone replacement therapy regardless of how great they may feel or if blood markers are supposedly healthy and if anything they most likely have dysfunctional thyroid/adrenals. Here is the S**T KICKER. You have people on the forum going on and on about [U][B][I]so-called optimal let alone everything being in balance[/I][/B][/U][B][I] yet these same individuals trying their damndest to micro-manage estradiol/DHT/prolactin/DHEA and the laundry list goes on yet [U]when it comes to T are running levels well F**KING beyond what their body could ever produce endogenously let alone what level they were genetically at in their PRIME[/U] (late teens/the early 20s).[/I][/B] No male in his prime (late teens/the early 20s) was producing absurdly high peak or trough TT/FT levels let alone 24/7 (steady-state)! [B][I]Top it all of that your HPGA is shut down and [U]most are not replacing physiological levels of T they are forcing levels upon THEMSELVES well f**king beyond what one could endogenously ever produce[/U].[/I][/B] Complete S**T SHOW! [/QUOTE]
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