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HUGE DROP IN LIPID MARKERS - why?
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<blockquote data-quote="mcs" data-source="post: 213420" data-attributes="member: 12"><p>I updated 2 lipid tests both drawn at same day/time:</p><p><a href="https://app.box.com/s/ipxxhcmkkrrb24ak4inmas9pqwf2iwld" target="_blank">STANDARD PANEL</a> and the <a href="https://app.box.com/s/tfny6x9s9oougga2lpeagajarcjh1mb6" target="_blank">ADVANCED PANEL 1 (with ref ranges)</a> and <a href="https://app.box.com/s/5m9mlsfgkmvhinix64296b44pkjpb9iy" target="_blank">ADVANCED PANEL 2 (historical graphs)</a></p><p></p><p>Here’s a comparison with <a href="https://app.box.com/s/a8pe9xjil81aje8mq0sc84rq32760w1r" target="_blank">PREVIOUS STANDARD PANEL</a> and <a href="https://app.box.com/s/qv7nc4rjfsp87hd7yxepse37n2ati9sj" target="_blank">PREVIOUS ADVANCED PANEL</a>.</p><p></p><p>With this comparison, you can now see how misleading standard lipid profiles are!</p><p></p><p>My TC, LDL-C, trigs have not been that low since 1988.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, HDL took a nose dive as well.</p><p></p><p>The question is - <em>why the precipitous drop across the board?</em></p><p></p><p>Could it all be because I had fasted for ~ 15h prior to the draw and my levels dropped due to lipid clearance? This was 3h more than on the last draw.</p><p>Or maybe the drop is from more aggressive use of certain targeted supps (like Bergamet, sustained-release niacin, pantethine)?</p><p></p><p>What doesn’t make sense: having been on a all-organic whole foods LCHF/keto diet + omega 3’s + using those supps are all supposed to increase HDL and reduce LDL-P, etc.</p><p></p><p>Despite the drops, my advanced panel stubbornly still shows the same old dyslipidemic results as seen on my last advanced panel:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><strong>elevated LDL-P</strong></strong></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><strong>depressed HDL-C</strong></strong></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><strong>elevated APO-B</strong></strong></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><strong>elevated sdLDL-C</strong></strong></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><strong>elevated hsCRP</strong></strong></li> </ul><p></p><p>Aren’t these markers likely the driving forces (especially LDL-P and APO-B) behind progression of one’s CAC score, so highly important to focus on?</p><p></p><p>As you can see, though my TC dropped, LDL-P went up!</p><p></p><p>My <a href="https://app.box.com/s/ju1ai3gq5l2molmwfr373z3tx8azi1hu" target="_blank">latest thyroid labs</a> show an elevated TSH but normalFT3/FT4, but will a suppressed TSH be relevant when it comes to lipids?</p><p></p><p>Could it be that no matter what we do to manipulate the diet, etc., <a href="https://app.box.com/s/t6u7wyu1xs9bzbyhzit8mj4xw6367vdf" target="_blank">genetic variants</a> will predetermine which people will be overly sensitive to saturated fat? I mean, there’s not much we can do diet, medication or exercise-wise in the case with manipulating a bad actor like Lp(a) to any considerable degree.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mcs, post: 213420, member: 12"] I updated 2 lipid tests both drawn at same day/time: [URL='https://app.box.com/s/ipxxhcmkkrrb24ak4inmas9pqwf2iwld']STANDARD PANEL[/URL] and the [URL='https://app.box.com/s/tfny6x9s9oougga2lpeagajarcjh1mb6']ADVANCED PANEL 1 (with ref ranges)[/URL] and [URL='https://app.box.com/s/5m9mlsfgkmvhinix64296b44pkjpb9iy']ADVANCED PANEL 2 (historical graphs)[/URL] Here’s a comparison with [URL='https://app.box.com/s/a8pe9xjil81aje8mq0sc84rq32760w1r']PREVIOUS STANDARD PANEL[/URL] and [URL='https://app.box.com/s/qv7nc4rjfsp87hd7yxepse37n2ati9sj']PREVIOUS ADVANCED PANEL[/URL]. With this comparison, you can now see how misleading standard lipid profiles are! My TC, LDL-C, trigs have not been that low since 1988. Unfortunately, HDL took a nose dive as well. The question is - [I]why the precipitous drop across the board?[/I] Could it all be because I had fasted for ~ 15h prior to the draw and my levels dropped due to lipid clearance? This was 3h more than on the last draw. Or maybe the drop is from more aggressive use of certain targeted supps (like Bergamet, sustained-release niacin, pantethine)? What doesn’t make sense: having been on a all-organic whole foods LCHF/keto diet + omega 3’s + using those supps are all supposed to increase HDL and reduce LDL-P, etc. Despite the drops, my advanced panel stubbornly still shows the same old dyslipidemic results as seen on my last advanced panel: [LIST] [*][B][B]elevated LDL-P[/B][/B] [*][B][B]depressed HDL-C[/B][/B] [*][B][B]elevated APO-B[/B][/B] [*][B][B]elevated sdLDL-C[/B][/B] [*][B][B]elevated hsCRP[/B][/B] [/LIST] Aren’t these markers likely the driving forces (especially LDL-P and APO-B) behind progression of one’s CAC score, so highly important to focus on? As you can see, though my TC dropped, LDL-P went up! My [URL='https://app.box.com/s/ju1ai3gq5l2molmwfr373z3tx8azi1hu']latest thyroid labs[/URL] show an elevated TSH but normalFT3/FT4, but will a suppressed TSH be relevant when it comes to lipids? Could it be that no matter what we do to manipulate the diet, etc., [URL='https://app.box.com/s/t6u7wyu1xs9bzbyhzit8mj4xw6367vdf']genetic variants[/URL] will predetermine which people will be overly sensitive to saturated fat? I mean, there’s not much we can do diet, medication or exercise-wise in the case with manipulating a bad actor like Lp(a) to any considerable degree. [/QUOTE]
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